The Neophyte period
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@Patrick Ossoski said
"Good luck. "
Luck has nothing to do with it.
Skill, my friend. And an innate humility...
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@Frater 639 said
"Luck has nothing to do with it.
Skill, my friend. And an innate humility... "I'm not even sure it takes skill. It takes perseverance, repetition, etc.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"I'm not even sure it takes skill. It takes perseverance, repetition, etc."
Agreed. But I think repetition creates the skill. Guitar playing is a skill. Mountaineering is a skill.
*Consciousness is a symptom of disease.
All that moves well moves without will.
All skillfulness, all strain, all intention is contrary to ease.
Practise a thousand times, and it becomes difficult; a thousand thousand, and it becomes easy; a thousand thousand times a thousand thousand, and it is no longer Thou that doeth it, but It that doeth itself through thee. Not until then is that which is done well done.
Thus spoke FRATER PERDURABO as he leapt from rock to rock of the moraine without ever casting his eyes upon the ground.
*Or maybe, it just looks like a skill to the outside observer. On the inside, it feels like Life.
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Right. What I was really saying is that skill is the consequence, not the method.
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@Patrick Ossoski said
"Oh, that was interesting.
PS: Being skillful is lucky. (In a certain way.)"
I can get down with that POV.@Jim Eshelman said
"Right. What I was really saying is that skill is the consequence, not the method.
"Agreed!
EDIT:
"Not luck, skill" is just a cocky thing I used to say when playing basketball.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Pan DCLXVI said
"i have one question about neophyte grade initiation. i have no temple where i can initiation. i have no room for temple. so, what can i do? can i go to forest and there make this rite?"This is a question for your Zelator. How does your lineage handle things of this sort?"
so, my question was about, that i dont have a space for rituals and please tell me what can i do? may i doing self-initiation ritual in the forest? if i can do make these ritual in forest, how to make a symbolic temple that i dont abolish law of ritual.
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I'm guessing, since you haven't said...
Do you have a Zelator? You began by speaking of specific steps in a specific grade of a specific system, so I've been answering on the assumption that you are a member of that specific system.
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@Pan DCLXVI said
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Pan DCLXVI said
"i have one question about neophyte grade initiation. i have no temple where i can initiation. i have no room for temple. so, what can i do? can i go to forest and there make this rite?"This is a question for your Zelator. How does your lineage handle things of this sort?"
so, my question was about, that i dont have a space for rituals and please tell me what can i do? may i doing self-initiation ritual in the forest? if i can do make these ritual in forest, how to make a symbolic temple that i dont abolish law of ritual."
The forest is an excellent place for Works of Magick. Could you describe the specific ritual you have in mind?