Jason Miller - Sorcery

Frater Dark Matter

Greetings,

Quite by accident I was given Jason Millers The Sorceror Secret for christmas. At first I was quite hesitanjt about it; but then I have this habit of reading a book which I amj quite sure I would not like for the simply, "mental excersize of the grey matter. I soon found it quite enjoyable and actually felt I had been prepared through 51 years of really wierd and uncommon life experiance (maybe even some from my previous life) to begin this work. Still, millions of questions- most of which looking like I won't get much of an answer. luckily, of all my time preparing, I always kept some effort going on what I called The Crowley Speedbump. On the superficialist of levels all signs said chuck this luny and his work, luckily- him being a luny and full of antics is just what I need to look deeper before I cast any final decision. now I have a new "Dead Friend" who is a valueble genius in my world.
As for Mr Miller, his book is pretty good, but I keep thinking i am only getting tiny bits of much bigger fish; ansd I also feel I have to get a better grip on the 'wierd lingo" in order to smooth out and put more decicivness in my ritual work.
Can someone tell me just what language he is using -is it just greek? if so I would like find a course to load onto my mp3 player for study, as well as latin.

I have said alot- not sure if I have asked much. But maybe someone out there can just kinda purge back what goes on in their head and we can meet in the Middle Ether.

Thanks

Frater Dark Matter

Selene

"The Sorcerer's Secrets: Strategies in Practical Magick" by Jason Miller

I haven't read this. I found it on amazon.com, they have a "peek inside" - there is an appendix on Greek vowels, so I suppose he uses Greek.

A better book is "Modern Magick: Twelve Lessons in the High Magickal Arts" by Donald Michael Kraig

AliceKnewIt

Have you read any of Jim Eshelman's books?

The Mystical and Magical System of the A .'. A .'. - The Spiritual System of Aleister Crowley & George Cecil Jones... by James A. Eshelman

776 1/2: Tables for Practical Ceremonial by James A. Eshelman

Visions & Voices: Aleister Crowley's Enochian Visions with Astrological & Qabalistic Commentary by James A. Eshelman

Macsen Melinydd

In the realm of raw sorcery, Peter Carroll's ideas are at the top of the pyramid if you ask me. If you find Miller's stuff falling short, go read Pete's books in chronological order and then assess the situation.

Frater Dark Matter

Thanks for the replies. I will read the other works mentioned and am sure I will be richly fed beyond what the Jason miller book offered. Thanks Much

Frater 639

@P is for Pomegranate said

"In the realm of raw sorcery, Peter Carroll's ideas are at the top of the pyramid if you ask me. "

I agree. Carroll has some good "signposts." Frater U.'.D.'. is worth checking out too. Phil Hine is another.

Macsen Melinydd

@Frater 639 said

"Frater U.'.D.'. is worth checking out too. Phil Hine is another.
"

Frater U.'.D.'. I avoided, but Hine is hilarious, such a treasured virtue in the occult world. Jan Fries also deserves a plug.

gurugeorge

@Frater Dark Matter said

"Greetings,

Quite by accident I was given Jason Millers The Sorceror Secret for christmas. At first I was quite hesitanjt about it; but then I have this habit of reading a book which I amj quite sure I would not like for the simply, "mental excersize of the grey matter. I soon found it quite enjoyable and actually felt I had been prepared through 51 years of really wierd and uncommon life experiance (maybe even some from my previous life) to begin this work. Still, millions of questions- most of which looking like I won't get much of an answer. luckily, of all my time preparing, I always kept some effort going on what I called The Crowley Speedbump. On the superficialist of levels all signs said chuck this luny and his work, luckily- him being a luny and full of antics is just what I need to look deeper before I cast any final decision. now I have a new "Dead Friend" who is a valueble genius in my world.
As for Mr Miller, his book is pretty good, but I keep thinking i am only getting tiny bits of much bigger fish; ansd I also feel I have to get a better grip on the 'wierd lingo" in order to smooth out and put more decicivness in my ritual work.
Can someone tell me just what language he is using -is it just greek? if so I would like find a course to load onto my mp3 player for study, as well as latin.

I have said alot- not sure if I have asked much. But maybe someone out there can just kinda purge back what goes on in their head and we can meet in the Middle Ether.

Thanks

Frater Dark Matter"

It's probably worth noting that Crowley distinguished Sorcery (or Black Magick) from Magick per se. The following should give you some idea of what he meant by the distinction:-

"THE SORCERER

A Sorcerer by the power of his magick had subdued
  all things to himself.
Would he travel?  He could fly through space more
  swiftly than the stars.
Would he eat, drink, and take his pleasure?  there
  was none that did not instantly obey his bidding.
In the whole system of ten million times ten million
  spheres upon the two and twenty million planes he
  had his desire.
And with all this he was but himself.
Alas!

(From the Book of Lies)"

However, that's not to say he wasn't averse to a bit of Sorcery now and then, just that it wasn't his main focus.

(Point of amusement: If one is using the old colloquial/RPG terms, a Crowleyan magician is more like a Wizard than a Sorcerer.)

Macsen Melinydd

I thought someone might put that chapter up here, and I think it is a sublime reflection. You're right, it's important to have the distinction. It(sorcery) has its uses, namely in the working of glamors, or understood by me in the 21st century as a programing of the memesphere by way of symbolically charged art with the intent to push social impulses in certain directions(preferably directions beneficial to evolution). This is sorcery Crowley was well adept at(Liber L, anyone?). On the other hand, you have the glamors that get you laid, get you paid, get you lost, power-drunk, and mad. Some would say Crowley was a maverick at that too...

(Edit: here is a quote from a fiction I read recently, the first I had in a while: "Sorcery is a sword without a hilt. There is no safe way to grasp it."
A Clash of Kings, Chapter 23, George R. R. Martin)