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Timing of the New Aeon and the four worlds/elements

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    Hermes
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 1:21 AM last edited by
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    @Patrick Ossoski said

    ":?: 😱

    What "activation?" And why did you change the order of the elements?"

    By "activation" i mean like this:

    1904: Atziluth as the New Aeon is manifested by our Gods to Crowley, and Air as the form chosen is a holy book

    1945: Briah for the symbolism and Fire for the means

    1991: Yetzirah as humankind enters into last phase of globalisation, and Water for the pacific ocean symbolism(lol?)

    2012: Assiah as magick is now very common on the physical plane even if it most often called otherwise. Earth as most people are becoming gnomes.

    So globally by activation i mean "initiation", which seems to me 4 stepped. If so now we're entering the pathworking so to speak, which will last the whole actual aeon. For the elements it just stroke me this way. I tend to like putting them in this order, like the chakras of yoga.

    Also you can see it as such:

    moon: water
    mercury: (air feeds) fire
    venus: (fire feeds) air

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    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 2:13 AM last edited by
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    I think the Trump dates are all we need. 😀

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    Hermes
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 8:10 PM last edited by
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    @Patrick Ossoski said

    "I think the Trump dates are all we need. 😀"

    You mean the Tarot? Great. It may be full of answers.

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    Anonymous
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 8:15 PM last edited by
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    Yes, in the context of the Thelemic Years, specifically.

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    Takamba
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 8:24 PM last edited by
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    @Frater Horus said

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    @Patrick Ossoski said
    "I think the Trump dates are all we need. 😀"

    You mean the Tarot? Great. It may be full of answers."

    I take this to mean that you aren't familiar with the Thelemic dating method that Crowley devised (hence why you found a need to devise one (strangely) of your own). There are 22 years in each cycle, and each cycle is denoted by a tarot trump (beginning with the Fool in 1904) and each year is denoted by a trump. When 22 years have past, the cycle moves to the new card. Thus, being 109 years after the reception of The Book of the Law, or 4x22 = The Emperor and (109-88=21) The Aeon. We write the date as IV:xxi

    For more info
    www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6786

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    Anonymous
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 8:32 PM last edited by
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    Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say.

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    Hermes
    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 8:54 PM last edited by
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    Yeah i know this system but did not meditate onto it yet... i'm looking forward to do it. Amazing stuff.

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    replied to Hermes on Jul 1, 2013, 9:17 PM last edited by
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    It's awesome. The accuracy just blows my mind...

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    Takamba
    replied to Hermes on Jul 2, 2013, 7:24 AM last edited by
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    @Patrick Ossoski said

    "Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say."

    If you think this is Hierophant: Universe, what is next year when we will write IV:xxII ? It's a 22:22 system and the tarot is number zero to twenty-one, so you need to adjust.

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    Hermitas
    replied to Hermes on Jul 2, 2013, 10:50 AM last edited by
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    @Takamba said

    "
    @Patrick Ossoski said
    "Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say."

    If you think this is Hierophant: Universe, what is next year when we will write IV:xxII ? It's a 22:22 system and the tarot is number zero to twenty-one, so you need to adjust."

    Hmmm... Wait a second...

    If IV is the Emperor, then XXI is the Universe and XXII is the Fool.

    If the Fool is I, then IV is the Empress.

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    Takamba
    replied to Hermes on Jul 2, 2013, 10:58 AM last edited by
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    @Legis said

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    @Takamba said
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    @Patrick Ossoski said
    "Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say."

    If you think this is Hierophant: Universe, what is next year when we will write IV:xxII ? It's a 22:22 system and the tarot is number zero to twenty-one, so you need to adjust."

    Hmmm... Wait a second...

    If IV is the Emperor, then XXI is the Universe and XXII is the Fool.

    If the Fool is I, then IV is the Empress."

    I guess you're right if XXII is the Fool.

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    replied to Hermes on Jul 2, 2013, 12:16 PM last edited by
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    @Takamba said

    "
    @Patrick Ossoski said
    "Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say."

    If you think this is Hierophant: Universe, what is next year when we will write IV:xxII ? It's a 22:22 system and the tarot is number zero to twenty-one, so you need to adjust."

    It's a 0-21 measurement.

    This year is IV(21). Next year is V(0).

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    Hermitas
    replied to Hermes on Jul 2, 2013, 1:10 PM last edited by
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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "
    @Takamba said
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    @Patrick Ossoski said
    "Slightly off: the current year is The Universe (Atu XXI). Unless I misunderstood what you tried to say."

    If you think this is Hierophant: Universe, what is next year when we will write IV:xxII ? It's a 22:22 system and the tarot is number zero to twenty-one, so you need to adjust."

    It's a 0-21 measurement.

    This year is IV(21). Next year is V(0)."

    Oh! Doh! Okay. Gotcha.

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