I came to the forum after long-time-no-see with a question in mind to post and randomly checked here in Qabalah section to see what's new - to find this old thread that addresses, however in its own different way, exactly the subject of my question !
Does anyone know (ideally, historical info, with year/century and everything pertinent) when the Shemhamphorash started being attributed to the Zodiac, in sequence as we now have it?
@Uni_Verse said
"The Mystics' Rede (of I)
four-square, mystic,
I am a Nigh-hil-is-tic!
Who can know nothing,
there : being, no
thing to know
Though I dare
O, my god !
I DO, DARE : TO WILL
To feel, to think, to be-leaf
When, said:
"This is THAT,"
I recoils, horrified
At the denial of my validity
Sanctity of my solemn-I-ty
Accepting, Respecting
Beliefs
Best I can do as a fellow Me
to You
TOOT, TOOT
HOOT, HOOT"
Reading this just brought Brightness of Laughter, pure-undiluted-solar-simple-Happiness, to start my day!
Hey, LD330, glad to see you back!
In briefest, we can say that all the divinatory techniques serve one single purpose: to train the subconsciousness to become more and more open to receive the guidance from Intuition (Neshamah).
It's basically, getting the conscious self of the reason-ego at-bay for a time, keeping the mind silenced, and entering as deep meditational space as you can, and addressing your own H.G.A. with a Question.
Making notes on the process, as well as assessing later on how the events unfolded and what happened, in light of info provided by divination, gives you over time more and more basis for certainty, in interpreting what the guidance-message means. Ideally, one eventually comes to the point of needing no intellectual interpretation, but simply receiving the message immediately, directly, as soon as perception is exposed to the symbol (the divinatory Info).
Over time, this leads to the state of subconsciousness being easily aligned with, and continually open for, receiving guidance directly from Neshamah.
As I'm gradually working of translating Liber Legis into Latin, I'll be posting here periodically the most interesting findings, on the go.
Here's some today's gems:
BACULUM VIS COPH NIAE - Wand of the Force of Coph Nia = 175
(while Force of the Coph Nia itself - Vis Coph Niae = 110)
A note on this, as an aside that might be interesting to some:
Consider this sequence of verses as sequence of all Tifereth and Y'sod, i.e. every pair of Sun-and-Moon, verses in the book! - And take into account how the Chapters flow into each other: Nuit and Hadit meet in the Noon, The Fish verse (i.e. between Tifereth and Netzah verse) of Zayin, the Lovers sequence (I, 61 - II, 4); and the Child springs out from their Union via the Lamed, The Ox Goad (i.e. between G'boorah and Tifereth) in the Samekh, the Prop sequence (II, 75 - III, 5)!
ATTENTION: not for the faint of heart 
And unfortunately for tropicalists, it only works within the Sidereal Astrology framework
Here, a toy at your disposal, for fun and mystical diving into the hidden messages therein:
By the analogy of:
First 10 verses of the Book are Aleph sequence, in order: Kether to Mal'kooth; then the next ten are
Beyth seq., etc; considering the Tifereth and Y sod verses in each of the Zodiac related sequences in the
sense of: Sun and Moon in the Constellation for example: Tifereth of Quoph sequence represents the
Sun in Pisces, etc), we get the following - and listed in the sequence as they appear in the Book (not by the annual zodiacal sequence of Sun-through-constellations):
AQUARIUS
Sun: I, 46
Nothing is a secret key of this law. Sixty-one the Jews call it; I call it eight, eighty, four hundred & eighteen.
Moon: I, 49
Abrogate are all rituals, all ordeals, all words and signs. Ra-Hoor-Khuit hath taken his seat in the East at the Equinox of the Gods and let Asar be with Isa who also are one. But they are not of me[.] Let Asar be the adorant, Isa the Sufferer; Hoor in his secret name and splendour is the Lord initiating.
TAURUS
Sun: I,56
Expect him not from the East nor from the West for from no expected house cometh that child. Aum! All words are sacred and all prophets true; save only that they understand a little; solve the first half of the equation, leave the second unattacked. But thou hast all in the clear light, and some though not all in the dark.
Moon: I, 59
My incense is of resinous woods & gums and there is no blood therein: because of my hair the trees of Eternity.
GEMINI
Sun: I, 66
The Manifestation of Nuit is at an end.
Moon: II, 3
In the sphere I am everywhere, the centre as she the circumference is nowhere found.
CANCER
**Sun: II, 10 **
O prophet! thou hast ill will to learn this writing.
Moon: II, 13
for why? Because thou wast the knower, and me.
LEO
Sun: II, 20
Beauty and strength, leaping laughter and delicious languor, force and fire, are of us
Moon: II, 23
I am alone: there is no God where I am.
VIRGO
Sun: II, 30
If Will stops and cries Why, invoking Because, then Will stops & does nought
Moon: II, 33
Enough of Because! Be he damned for a dog!
LIBRA
Sun: II, 50
Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes & my spangles are purple &
green.
Moon: II, 53
Fear not, o prophet, when these words are said, thou shalt not be sorry. Thou art emphatically my
chosen; and blessed are the eyes that thou shalt look upon with gladness. But I will hide thee in a mask
of sorrow: they that see thee shall fear thou art fallen: but I lift thee up.
SCORPIO
Sun: II, 70
There is help & hope in other spells. Wisdom says: be strong! Then canst thou bear more joy. Be not
animal; refine thy rapture! If thou drink, drink by the eight and ninety rules of art: if thou love, exceed by
delicacy and if thou do aught joyous, let there be subtlety therein
Moon: II, 73
Ah! Ah! Death! Death! thou shalt long for death. Death is forbidden, o man, unto thee.
SAGITTARIUS
Sun: III, 1
Abrahadabra; the reward of Ra Hoor Khut.
Moon: III, 4
Choose ye an island!
CAPRICORN
Sun: III, 11
This shall be your only proof. I forbid argument. Conquer! That is enough. I will make easy to you the
abstruction from the ill-ordered house in the Victorious City. Thou shalt thyself convey it with worship, o
prophet, though thou likest it not. Thou shalt have danger & trouble. Ra-Hoor-Khu is with thee. Worship
me with fire & blood; worship me with swords & with spears. Let the woman be girt with a sword before
me: let blood flow to my name. Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of
their flesh to eat
Moon: III, 14
Ye shall see that hour, o blessed Beast, and thou the Scarlet Concubine of his desire!
ARIES
Sun: III, 31
There cometh a rich man from the West who shall pour his gold upon thee.
Moon: III, 34
But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt
down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth and shall stand until the fall of the Great
Equinox when Hrumachis shall arise and the double-wanded one assume my throne and place. Another
prophet shall arise and bring fresh fever from the skies another woman shall awake the lust & worship
of the Snake another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globed priest another sacrifice shall stain
the tomb another king shall reign and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!
PISCES
Sun: III, 41
Establish at thy Kaaba a clerkship-house: all must be done well and with business way.
Moon: III, 44
But let her raise herself in pride. Let her follow me in my way. Let her work the work of wickedness. Let
her kill her heart! Let her be loud and adulterous let her be covered with jewels and rich garments and
let her be shameless before all men.
Some interesting new findings that I feel prompted to share here, for joy and amusement of unknown readers working with, or interested in, LQS 
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Septem Lampades Ardentes - The Seven Lamps of Fire
Collegium Rosae Crucis - The Fraternity of the Rosy Cross
Conscientia Novi Aeonis â New Aeon Consciousness
@wanderer-exile said
"Would this book aid me in interpreting my Sidereal Birth Chart?
Thank you in advance."
It's educative on the general principles of Sidereal astrology, but the book per se deals with astrology of the collective, not the individual, person-related Natal astrology.
For inquiries into your natal chart, I suggest making an account at www.solunars.com/index.php and posting your data; there's a community of astrologers there who can provide interpretation pointers and help you navigate the website, for resources to study further.
In more particular terms, I said the following on solunars.com, in context of giving an astro+HRBP p.o.v. advice to small and mid-size business owners:
" think of how you can re-shape it, change it to be more aligned with the Capricorn-Pluto trends, what is it that your particular business can offer in longer term that is aligned to the changed conditions (the viruses will keep coming, in waves - LOL, and the astrologers will keep observing the wonderful patterns, again and again anew in Awe with the magnificent perfection of their working!
@FiatYod said
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@danica said
"So, in brief, I see this Covid-19 time as a phase, the brief intro to a larger phase (18 years of Pl in Cap), that provides the opportunity for this mass-scale transition to be incorporated - into the body of mass conscious knowledge, and into the physical and social structures as we now have them (via destroying, changing, morphing, in one way or another transforming the existing - toward the ones that are more harmoniously aligned with the New-Aeon-cognition mode of operating)."
What do you mean by an incorporation of this transition into the physical structures as we now have them?"
Excellent question, thank you.
Root-level of re-building the 'economy': creating sustainable solutions, small-scale and community-scale; changing the modes we 'do business', in our daily habits, by adapting to changed & ongoingly unstable (in comparison to 'before') conditions.
So, in brief, I see this Covid-19 time as a phase, the brief intro to a larger phase (18 years of Pl in Cap), that provides the opportunity for this mass-scale transition to be incorporated - into the body of mass conscious knowledge, and into the physical and social structures as we now have them (via destroying, changing, morphing, in one way or another transforming the existing - toward the ones that are more harmoniously aligned with the New-Aeon-cognition mode of operating).
@Hermitas said
"
I do realize that both recovery from illness and maintaining financial security are both survival-level needs.
I look to the human body as an analogy for society. When we get sick, the body shuts down. My body healing itself is a more fundamental priority than me achieving self-actualization.
"
I think we're in the process of collectively re-structuring, re-defining what are, globally, considered to be the Basic Needs of Human; a process of about 18 years (Pluto is transitioning from Sagittarius to Capricorn now, will enter Capricorn in 2021 and leave in end 2040), followed by the phase of about 18 years when we'll get to feel the 'taste' of the New Aeon Cognition/consciousness on a mass-scale for the first time (Pluto's pass through Aquarius).
The truth is, as species we have the survival needs covered - it's not an issue for the Human any more as it used to be; there IS enough resources, and there are known ways to utilize them, in order for everyone living to have the food & housing.
This is now perceived, on mass-level, only sub-consciously (look at the rising number of people experiencing psychological depression; look at millennials and their approach to job/work; etc - there's need for meaning and for self-actualization, and the Human is becoming awake to how very Urgent and Burning this need is); there's been a saturation-point, but it hasn't reached the global surface of awareness fully as yet; it will take us some time to "sort things out" (I see this as the specific Purification-process of the Pluto in Capricorn phase); understanding how the matter-energy operates on the Quantum Mechanics level, and understanding Heisenberg's findings, in particular, is a vital part of this large-scale cognitive transition.
The Child-consciousness operates from perspective of: being rooted in the nakedness of Now, and focused-oriented to the Future (imagine the baby being born, the process of it coming out of the Womb, and the experience of exposure to Light and Air for the first time; does it turn back to look at the womb? of course not! all there is is Now and To-Be - left to its own devices, the infant follows a very specific path - up the mother's body, in a straight line, to reach the breast); it has the co-existence awareness inherent in itself. Another analogy: our Sun is the very core and center of the Solar system, and simultaneously, it's only a star among stars: both are true, and equally importantly so; this second aspect of the New Aeon cognition needs to be developed now (the first, understanding the uniqueness of the Sun, is already under way), the awakening of awareness of our mutual interconnectedness and co-existence.
For the new-born, the presence-of-everything-needed for survival is a given, it's a position the Child begins with.
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P.S. on a related note, I've just came across this quote on FB:
""No life is worth living, if we cannot be true to our nature"
I don't know the author, but the reflection of the N.A.C. perspective on the priority of needs is clear.
Put on YT today, by a beloved brother - enjoy!
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLma_tb2Vcc3nyNj-8EHgy2i7DSZVJjmu1
Consider how being sick with the virus, dying, or spreading it around to others to get sick, restricts the Will.
@Takamba said
"The System A.'.A.'. is a student/teacher (chela/guru) relationship model.
[...] by learning to transmit the knowledge from your teacher to your student, you improve your methods toward attaining. "
Essentially, the whole point of attaining is to transmit.
Oldfriend56, I came across the work of these people from Norway, you might find it interesting:
Thelemic Perspective on Sexual Alchemy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FfOyfa4l_k&t=26s
Welcome aboard, brother Magistar418!
"Loud and adulterous" [fem.] - Magna Et Adulterina = 156
@DragonKing418 said
"Is Gavin a Thelemite?"
"Gavin McInnis, founder of the Proud Boys (violent, white supremacist gang)"
well, this clearly shows him a non-Thelemite even if he himself declares as one