College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

@Dannerz said

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@v0rtex666 said
"Why do you want to communicate with spirits?"

I'd like to communicate with them so that i could have some of my spiritual questions answered. I'd also like to build relationships with spirits. I'd like to communicate with things like arch angels, divine intelligences, elementals, etc."

As regards spiritual questions, I would say that the Tarot is a good place to start. As regards relationships with spirits, I offer this quote (source forgotten):

"Therefore, we are to proceed carefully in magic, as spirits likewise desire the communion of the human soul."

To both Labyrinthus and Jim,

Amen.

@Frater Pantha said

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@gmugmble said
"Buddha had trouble relating to women."

Really? How so?"

Thus have I heard (but I'm afraid I don't remember a source). The Buddha's cousin, a woman, wanted to become one of his disciples, and frequently asked him about this, but he would only accept men. She persisted, and finally he gave in and made her the first Buddhist nun.

There is also an old Buddhist doctrine that you can only become enlightened if you are incarnated as a healthy male human being. (Modern Buddhists, at least of the Mahayana variety, do not accept this doctrine.)

When I said what I said, I was taking liberties for the sake of a rhetorical flourish.

Ah, no wonder the written name didn't automatically vibrate the way that a living person's written name subtley vibrates when held in any space, due to certain sympathetic principals.

It may have been that I felt this way because I needed to focus more on finding my own HGA, and then I impulsively misunderstood someone else's.

Thanks for your patient and learned response.

@Dannerz said

"Then some other guy who probably hasn't gotten any kind of initiation, just chants for a little while overtop of one of the goetic seals, [no circle, no banishing, no wand, no dagger] and within a little while some spirit comes to him which effects the scent of the air and makes visible distortions in the air, like heatwaves almost, the presence being so physically strong that it is almost unbarable.

These people I believe could not do things of their own power and besides that they were relatively unmasterful beginners. Despite all that, it happened. Why?"

It's not so big a deal to get a result with evocation. It's a much bigger deal to control the result you get!