there are some different schools of thought here and there,
my approach is to elongate or stretch out, and vibrate the Vowels,
so its
eeeeeeeeeeeelloooooooohhiiiiiiiiiiiimmm (Elohim, as an example)
but apply this to any of the words in the LRP, just read as is, and stretch and vibrate the Vowels
evol
Within a system similar to the A.A.
evol
Jim,
Do you know of any study or work that has been presented, that suggests the kind of ordeals and what they might look like as an initiate goes through the grades on the TOL?
evol
HI RvCH,
you might like to check this out...
evocationmagic.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1894
its a descent thread/Discussion with a lot of interesting stuff about the LBPR
evol
"I was wondering are they even compatible? If so, how would you make any correspondences?" 
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That would be a great study in my book.
Certainly i can see the comparison that in some of the Shamanic Practice cultures, the Tree is a Living SYMBOL that is used (along with other Shamanic Technology)to change STATES/WORLDS like in HERMETICISM, and also used to 'find' and 'anchor' STATES/WORLDS, so one 'knows where they are' so to speak.
evol
this is such a great question to me,
i havnt checked this site for over a week, mainly because ive been going through some very deep terrain that has been very consuming and challenging, and it has raised this question within me a number of times....does the Grade work i'm going through effect my Family?....is this right?...is this fair?....and just when i check the site i find the Question already posted.
Without a doubt for me it is Yes. But thats because it doesnt matter what i do, it effects my Family, and the more i acknowledge, respond and become responsible with this the better.
Ive thought about this question during other grades i have worked through, and i belive in the way the work of each Grade has brought up deep patterns and trauma that has been played out in my environment. Played out with others, and yes, sometimes my Family. Each time thou i work through it, under all the heat and pressure if i set my intent rite, it grows and i see the way i'm working energetically, what i'm 'holding in place' so to speak.
Another great thing i have realised with all this is a trust in the Intelligence of the Transpersonal, i.e. my families Karma is caught up with mine for a reason. It feels that, the more i accept this the better. The more i do the Great Work, the more this benefits them.
oh...and i'm more and more aware, that its not endless rituals and philisophical ponderings they need, its a man who sets his will and love to grow beauty with them.
all the best out there,
evol
thankyou,
i'm taking then that an approach would be to connect to the LIGHT above, and VIBRATE it down to the ALTER using only the names from GEBURAH. My way of making it fit would be to use my BODY as the TREE and out through my hands to the ALTER, with an emphasis of it passing through the GEBURAH position within and around the BODY, or maybe the GEBURAH position resonating with the overall experience of it comming down.
anyone got anythoughts?
evol
Hi,
Im currently needing some clarification within Sample Ceremony 5, as it is written in 776 1/2, and hopeing Jim and/or others could give me some input.
Its around the section entilted 'DRAW DOWN THE WHITE LIGHT', and where it then sais "Employing the Heirachical Names as you see fit".
Is an approach to VIBRATE the Divine names from each Sephira descending to MALKUTH? With a 'certain' focus through Geburah coressponding to the intent of the Ritual? and even saying the BRIAH and YETZIRAH names through GEBURAH only? Which then would travel down through the rest of the TREE to the ALTER as i complete the VIBRATION of the Divine Names?
Is their something i might not be considering here? and any input on Visualisations, other than LIGHT descending from KETHER and RED through GEBURAH which would then travel mixed with the LIGHT to MALKUTH?
Ive been working towards the perormance of this ceremony for a little while. Doing some study, and inner work to make sure it is in line with my true will. The section i have mentioned above feels like the last thing i need some knowledge and confidence with before it is brought to the Temple.
Looking forward to any coresspondence whatsoever. Certainly if you have performed this and feel it is right for you to speak/write this would be great.
kind regards
evol
Hello folks,
does any of you have experiences to share with Initiation into Yesod and the arousing of the Fire Snake that comes with this?
How you may have worked with the quite acute Arousal with the Sexual Energy?
Can the experience be 'wasted' through channeling this energy out through orgasm, or even non-orgasmic sex in general?
Should one abstain from such and 'push on'?
I am seeking a wider community than the one i can currently acess that can share some experience and advice around this.
kind regards
evol
"My question for the readers of this thread is as simple as this: How does one "get over" a traumitizing past?"
HI,
ive done alot of work with entheogens, with magick, yoga, and in therapy of all kinds though mostly Transpersonal Counselling. Life's a long hard road for some.
I respect your searching and the way i feel you openning into honesty about yourself. It's certainly hard to know which people's advice is really for you as well.
The main thing that comes to my mind is 'support', do you have any? is that why you reached out to this forum?
I know friends can offer supprt in many ways and thats important, though theres nothing quite like the supprt from someone who has the heart, experience, and training.
My own experience is that Magick (particularly working with a 'map' and 'tool' such as the tree, and a 'tradition') and entheogenic work goes very well with the 'right' counselling. A lot of 'progress' can be made in the direction you are seeking through combining what you are doing with honest, open, quality support.
Also currently my take on your question that i included above my post, is that, i know i have not, and currently dont feel i will ever really get over the deep experiences of hurt and trauma from my childhood, and i dont feel im meant to in the way i might have wanted as a younger person.
Its more that much of these experiences has found a place of worth and value inside of me, they have given my life purpose and meaning. I am learning to respect my wounds and know them with dignity.
But, i'm only going through it for myself and this is the best sense i can make from your question as it applies to my life and the experiences that inform it.
evolluap