College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

93s everyone,
I recently finished reading the book of Abramelin and in part 3 of the book where the sigils of the spirits are given I've noticed that it resembles the matrices in Algebra.

I have literally zero knowledge of Qabbalah for now so I wanted to ask you, have you ever tried converting the letters in the sigils to their numerical values and transposing or inverting the matrices.

To give an example;
S A M A E L
A () () () () ()
M () () () () ()
A () () () () ()
E () () () () ()
L () () () () ()

This six by six matrice when inverted could give a new matrice filling the blank squares in the initial matrice and thus giving a new code.

So I wanted to try that but I don't know if it would be a fool's errand or not so my first question is

1 Did you ever try to do that and obtain a new code from the sigils?

And secondly

2 Do I need the Hebrew letters to find the correct numerical values of the sigils?

Thanks in advance,
With love
Hego.

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@Uni_Verse said

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@Heg said
"I learned that knowledge, understanding and wisdom are sephirots in kabbalistic tree of life but I can't quite get my head around it. I know that is an important concept but that's it, i don't know what to do with that knowledge."

BE-WARE!
Knowledge is " not quite the Sephirot "

To expand on an earlier comment, you can conceptualize Knowledge as a portal.
With Understanding & Wisdom coming from the experience of crossing the threshold, and discovering what is on the other side.

@Heg said

"It feels like something big is coming but I don't know what it is. "

Try to relax, allowing the sensation to flow through.
Avoid building expectations.
The taller the Tower, the higher the probability of being struck by Lighting

Good lucky !

EDIT : Words continue to be eaten, now in real time ! "
Thank you Uni_Verse. I'll try not to build a high expectation but my curiosity is already at the peak of Himalayan Mountains.
93.

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@Hermitas said

"Yeah, I had an incredible acceleration of learning after my first formal initiation.

It wasn’t immediate.

It was experiential.

It wasn’t through the A.’.A.’. though."
I can't wait...

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@Uni_Verse said

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Knowledge is the Gate, the Seed of Initiation.
The Great Work, can be said, to be :
Process of transmuting that Knowledge,
Into Understanding & Wisdom
through Experience

"

I learned that knowledge, understanding and wisdom are sephirots in kabbalistic tree of life but I can't quite get my head around it. I know that is an important concept but that's it, i don't know what to do with that knowledge.

It feels like something big is coming but I don't know what it is.

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I didn't spot any reference to the new aeon but in his book Mysterium Coniunctionis He also describes a personal God:

...For the spirit alone penetrates all things, even the most solid bodies. Thus the catholicity of religion, or of the true Church, consists not in a visible and bodily gathering together of men, but in the invisible, spiritual concord and harmony of those who believe devoutly and truly in the one Jesus Christ. Whoever attaches himself to a particular church outside this King of Kings, who alone is the shepherd of the true spiritual church, is a sectarian, a schismatic, and a heretic. For the Kingdom of God cometh not with observation, but is within us, as our Saviour himself says in the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke...
... “But you will ask, where then are those true Christians, who are free from all sectarian contagion?” They are “neither in Samaria, nor in Jerusalem, nor in Rome, nor in Geneva, nor in Leipzig,” but are scattered everywhere through the world, “in Turkey, in Persia, Italy, Gaul, Germany, Poland, Bohemia, Moravia, England, America, and even in farthest India..."

I also found many kabbalistic references in that book. His collected works are full of references from rosicrucians and alchemical studies.

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93s everyone,

Approximately 2 years ago I applied to the Chancellor of A.A. for initiation. While trying to finish the reading list, I lost track a little bit and read over 30 books from mostly the references in Equinox and Jungian psychology books.

Although I have gained a lot by increasing my knowledge, I still feel myself extremely illiterate about the Great Work.

So is there anyone among you that doesn't follow any specific school of teaching and practicing rituals and yoga only by the books you have read?

I am getting more excited more than ever now that only 3 books left in the reading list. How dramatic was the change in your spiritual growth when you were initiated?

Thanks in advance,
With love,
Hego

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Political correctness in rituals? Cancer in one plane can spread to other planes as it seems.

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@Takamba said

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Read it all, do it all, measure it all, assess it all, improve or incorporate it all. Repeat as desired

Strive for perfect balance in all you say and do and think and believe. Balance means equilibrium, not stasis. Keep moving. And mostly, even if you don't show it on the outside, smile at every thing."

Thanks a lot Takamba. I will try.

You certainly sound like a wise young man dear Takamba. Do you have any advice for another young aspirant?

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@seekinghga said

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Let me try this. When you are falling asleep, are you able to recognize the state of mind when there are thoughts running but there is not yourself present to be thinking them? Otherwise, you need to just train the mind to keep to an object. I dunno, beyond that. I've given much instruction. Now, mind you AL: 1:44. Don't forget that. Just focus your mind. Come back at me."

I don't need to fall asleep, thoughts are always there without my permission.
I neglected meditation for sooo long. But for the last 4 months I've been using anti- depressants and anti-psychotics. That calmed my mind really good.
And I assume AL: 1:44 is Liber Legis 1:44 right?

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@seekinghga said

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Not bad, but it is lacking on one point...

If you seriously want to know "Him" (gender is not applicable) then you need to still your mind by concentration. All of your wondering is the very thing which keeps you from God. God is the omnipresence which touches everything and which touches nothing. Where does this all occur? WHERE do all of the attributes of "God" come into play and make themselves KNOWN to us? It is in the mind. This is why the mind must be taught and trained to keep still. "

Please tell me what it is lacking.

And as always it is a joy to hear your thoughts seekinghga!

@seekinghga said

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Answer this: What is "God"?"

I was just thinking about this question myself actually. I don't have an idea but I want to know him. But my human brain will not be able to apprehend being of beings even though I see, touch, hear him. Right now all the answers that I can provide for this question will be resultant of my poorly designed faculties. All the things I can associate him will be based on my experiences gained through my senses. But Qoran says:

"He is exalted above what you associate him with"

So I will not be able to define, describe him without joining him in his unity. Only the concept of God for me is:

The ultimate being with infinite knowledge, infinite energy, infinite matter, the combination of everything in the universe or universes. He is all there is.

@seekinghga said

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OBVIOUSLY, if something is "omnipresent" then that would contain all places, including "There" where it is Not. Hmm. It is one of the trails to Adepthood to be able to comprehend the Unity in such a statement. Where does the otherwise disparagement occur?
"

If I am on the right track so far:

Since God is everything and all there ever was, is and will be, excluding someplace as "there" is a blasphemy in itself. As stated in the Poem "AHA!":

"All thoughts are evil. Thought is two:
The seer and the seen. Eschew
That supreme blasphemy, my son,
Remembering that God is One."

Do I understand this concept correctly?

@Takamba said

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Let's hear yours. Where are you at with it all yourself? There are so many things available to the motivated on Amazon alone.
"

I'm reading the list given for people who wants to be Probationers, so far I've read the Equinox 1-10, Knox Om Pax, Doctrine and Ritual of Transcendental Magic and Liber LXV. I've got the entire list and am currently on Liber 7. I'm reading my favorite passages from Liber LXV and Liber al vel Legis on a daily basis.

Where am I at with it myself? Honestly I don't know. I feel like I'm missing the most important things while I read those, example being the box of lofty thoughts in my other post.

My thoughts on "There! is no God" are numerous though. My first thought was in the aethry where choronzon lies there is no god. It's a stupid assumption maybe but in the Key of Mysteries by Levi he was saying God is order and Devil is disorder. And in the Abyss choronzon is constantly destroying, dispersing, creating disorder that there could be no God since everything is disorder. I don't understand the concept of Abyss entirely but it is a thought.

Then I was thinking the word "There" is only a means for us human beings, who need point of reference in every motion, to refer a location. But there is no location actually for God since everything in the Universe is a part of God and just using a point of reference as your mind and referring to someplace where God exists is meaningless. Stating "there is god" or "there is no god" is simply excluding your being from the God. But infinity minus one is still infinity so my point of view regarding the existing of infinity is null and void. It doesn't matter whether I assign a word or a location or a reference, he is infinity, and finite cannot describe infinity without losing itself in it.

When I read what I wrote it sounds like gibberish to me. Maybe that's why I wanted to hear other thoughts on the subject.

Thanks though, it was lovely to read another opinion.

@Corvinae said

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Maybe because you gave up looking after 12 hours and asked for the answer....instead of looking more?
Some things take time
Some things you have to figure out on your own.
If you earnestly want to know...then you have to do your own work."

What should I look for? Which books should I read? Should I meditate or read once again the vision and the voice? That is not a helpful answer. I don't have a work to do. I simply wish to hear other point of views.

Woe to me cause I'm still not getting it. Why am I not getting it?

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You give me more riddles to solve my own riddles Takamba. Magic glasses is a marvel to behold for me but I can't think of a way to use it as a tool to decipher man cover. "What's in the box" is all I can think of.

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93s everyone!!
I'm quoting a passage in the Cry of the 5th Aethry from the Vision and the Voice:

The Angel prompts me to whisper: “There is no god.” So they let me pass, and though there was
indeed nothing visible therein, yet there was a very strange atmosphere, which I could not understand.
.....
But they have a different sense. I had taken them to be a denial of the existence of God, but the man who says
them to me evidently means nothing of the sort: What he does mean I cannot tell at all. He slightly emphasized the word “there.”

"There" is no God. What does he mean by that? Is there a place in the universe where the omnipresent does not show his presence? Or am I missing some hidden meaning here?

Thanks in advance.
I love you all!!!

93,
Would you be so kind to walk me through the 8 compartments in the "box of lofty thoughts" in the Man Cover story?
Although I don't deeply understand the allegories in the story it affects me deeply. Especially the axioms given in "the book which contains all that I know for certain".
I'm pondering upon the meaning of the items in those 8 compartments but can't figure out what they supposed to mean. Any help would be appreciated.
Love is the law, low under will.
I love you all!!!

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I replied there as well my friend. Thank you!