College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

@Priory Soul said

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Yoga is not the means to an end, not causing the result, but understanding the Art of Breathing and Posture is critical when it comes time pass through the fire, or the veil set to obscure the communion and discourse.
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If it is for this, there is NO method by which one obtains It just by doing it and that's it. No Yoga, not Samekh, not Abramelin, not anything else. All these things are simple means to arise love, a love that is gentle and sustained. (Yoga is in fact a full process, not just the single practice of meditation).

There's the love of the ape's kitten and there's the love of the cat's kitten.

The kitten of the ape grabs the mother by the back with all his/her force. This kitten brings himself near to the mother with the power of force.
The kitten of the cat, however, doesn't have enough force to grab the mother. He cries and cries in desperation, knowing no other way around. The mother, hearing the cry, will not leave the kitten alone for long.

The first can be summarized by an aspirant that does Yoga, or whatever other discipline to "grab" the thing by the power of practice. The second is just an yearning, an hidden cry born from the agony of separatedness. Both are one and the same, and both are born of love. If the child of the ape instead of being absorbed on grabbing the mother will wander away she will not find him no more.

Mechanically doing any discipline serves nothing, IMO. They serves only as a mean to arise that love and to understand what type of love it is better for your nature, among other things.

Rereading what you wrote yesterday I understand now that I've been a little too hasty on one of my replies and didn't probably understand correctly what you wrote (excuse me for this).

Namely:
"See, initially you won't really have your p.o.v. in the other location, you'll be faking it (however subtly). That's OK. IME the successful shift comes with continuing until one day you realize you've lost yourself in the new experience and "forgot" what was physically going on - much like getting totally absorbed in a great movie."

To which I replied:
"Ok, thanks. In reality it has already happened to me this."

But then, practicing yesterday for about two hours I understood that I exchanged what you said for another thing. If I understand this correctly until a certain point, also if you "fake" a 1st person p.o.w. it is always a sort of imposed impression, until you don't fully merge with what you experience. Sort of like in the practice of the excercizes of Loyola when you envision the gospels at beginning it's like you are watching a movie (also if you pretend to have the p.o.w of Christ in there) and it will develops in being really Christ with a full "merging" with it.

In the former case you can fake at seeing things in first person etc. but the real impression and full merging with that p.o.w. happens only when you are totally absorbed in the experience, sort of like (as a methaphor for the concentration needed) having a broken mirror reflecting various impressions vs. an intact one giving back a full (one pointed), reliable one.

It was this to what you did refer to?

In this case, no, I never experienced it (I experienced watching a vivid movie, but not a full merging in 1st person in it, and I didn't understand it until I tried to put a full 1st person view in there, yesterday). I guess it will come by and by as I practice and I become better at yoga.