College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

Hello Potater,

Aside from having similar strengths, weaknesses and preferences, they should also tend to have similar physical features, as apparent in the case of twins.

However, the physical features are also dependent upon the Term and Face ruler of the Ascendant, among other things, which can be pretty sensitive to the change of time, as there are five Term rulers and three Face rulers in each sign. A 20-30 minutes difference in birth times is sufficient to change the Term ruler, assuming that the first person's Ascendant was at the beginning of the Term.

Another important thing is to note the Moon and its aspects, for it signifies the body and is the fastest moving...'planet'. Change or perfection of aspects will also change the body.

In some rare but interesting cases, we might also see a planet retrograde in one chart and stationery in another chart, and vice versa.

Needless to say, all this is also true for talents and preferences.

In the case of twins, they will likely be very similar in nature. But then there's nurture. Moreover, the objects or constructs in a natal chart symbolizes many things, signifying that there are several possible paths for a person to take. So twins can end up in different places though they are very similar in nature.

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It would be interesting to check hospital records to look at how often this occurs 😀

@Laxus said

"Yes, but there are two separate processes involved here. First, we perceive something. Then, we interpret what that something means.

A clairvoyant perceives something appearing in his mind's eye. A non-clairvoyant tarot reader 'feels the cards' before selecting them to be spread.

Although arguably both uses psychic faculties at first, the 'plane' on which the object is perceived is different. The object perceived by the clairvoyant stays in his/her mind's eye, and is therefore subjective because it can only be 'seen' by him (unless he telepathically communicates it to others).

The object perceived by the tarot reader are the cards, which are objects resting on the material plane (I believe it's called Assiah). It's there for all to see with their sensory sight.

Note that I am not assigning a value judgment on the words "objective" and "subjective"; I am simply describing the nature of the object of our perception.

Also, I am looking at it from the POV of someone who has been relying more on his sensory perception, and therefore it would be easier for him to accept the judgment if he is given some sensory stimuli.

So that's why I claimed that it's a reason to use divination over our natural psychic faculties. But only those who depend more on sensory perception would find it beneficial. To the strong intuitive/psychic, their psychic faculties would be as reliable as a system of divination."

Thank you for your summation on ontology and how you believe it applies to divination and the "clairs". 😀 See your quote starting with 'Of course...' below.
@Laxus said

"Well, there may be confusion here between psychic faculties and intuition, judging by the sentence."

Can you elaborate?"

Sure I can. Do I choose to? No. 😀

@Laxus said

"No it cannot, unless you mean that the object that the clairs see actually exist somewhere on the material plane. This I would agree with. But then the object might not be within your proximity, unlike the tarot cards which will be right in front of you."

I'm not debating that the Tarot cards are not on the table. Subjective and objective are classifications that can apply to more than just the material plane.

@Laxus said

"Of course, I realize that this is arbitrary if only the meaning is significant, and the stimuli themselves are not."

Yes! 😀

@Laxus said

"I agree, but the object of perception itself are of different natures depending on which method you use."

See your second to last quote above.

@Laxus said

"That's good; hopefully I'll be able to migrate somewhere where a centre is available."

For the A.'.A.'. proper, there is not a "centre" in the mundane sense of the word. Much of the training is done by the Aspirant and assessed through correspondence.