College of Thelema: Thelemic Education

@Patriel Machad said

"Is scary really the word? I find that amusing, considering the same chapter tells us not to fear at all.

Regardless of how one describes it, it is what it is supposed to be. I'm not sure what kind of answer you'd want to your question.

FWIW, if I ran with your choice of word (I wouldn't), I'd say it's not much "scarier" than cap. 2, and certainly not more than the Qur'an or much of the Bible."

Yeah, that is a good point, if it tells us not to fear, then how is that scary? i actually did not remember that part of it...

eh i actually havent read it in a while...just remember it being scary-ish...could just be my sub conscious fears or something..sigh*

yeah, it just a word... scary, or like u said, graphic, same kinda thing...its just more chaotic sounding and or like.... intense.. so i said scary... lol///okay ..thanks for answering me i like your answer, takamba.

If u didnt know what i was talking about u wouldnt have even said anything except , "what are u talking about?"

it's the scariest of the three chapters ...

Why is chapter three in the book of the law so scary? LOL like compared to the sweetness of chapter 1...

...interesting...thank you

hmm yeah I totally think the standard Christian idea of vicarious atonement type of grace is false . But I am open to a idea of grace like being maybe you get some insight from your HGA without conscious effort or something similar... I like to relate things to the tree of life now . So this kind of grace i mentioned, would it be in Tiphareth?

@Takamba said

"I think you will find this interesting: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgnosticteachings.org%2Fcourses%2Fbook-of-revelation.html&ei=fbOoVOLiHY6RyASX64KoAw&usg=AFQjCNGxXPRxsnWJHZj2t6oBZHouDKkcIQ&sig2=FCuFx6unj3oaTax5_48FNg"

cool , thanks.

"There is no grace: there is no guilt:
This is the Law: DO WHAT THOU WILT!"

-LIBER XLIV
THE MASS OF THE PHOENIX

How does this idea of grace fit into the new aeon (does it have a qabbalistic correspondence) , is there a new idea of grace in the new aeon? Or is it a part of the old aeon and part of a useless belief system? Or is this only meant to be a part of this ritual meaning to avoid either extreme,grace being one and guilt being the other?

Does anyone know of anything good written about the esoteric meaning of revelation that I can find online? One thing that caught my attention when I used to read the bible was that Christ in the last chapter of revelation called himself the bright morning star . The bright morning star is also mentioned in Isaiah ch. 14 as being Lucifer "son of the dawn". I wonder when the revelation book was really written, do you think it was written as long ago as they say or perhaps it may have been written closer to the 13th or 14th century?

Perhaps may be good to do some kind of meditation to get more centered and grounded.

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I always banish before invoking. Now, if you're using GRP to banish, I don't think it's necessary a LBRP."

I figured that would make sense. .

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Is it necessary to do a LBRP or Star Ruby before doing the GRP ?

"Virgo corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod, hence the Father and Iacchus. Asi is another name for Isis. Orus is a variant of Horus. IAO.

The triple repition of 'holy' in the keyword represents H.H.H. These three letters are said to conceal the three Mother letters, Aleph, Mem, and Shin. Add them to IAO (17, IAV) and you get 358 which is MShYCh, Messiah, and NChSh, Serpent."

Ah, very interesting . I was hoping for someone to explain it like that.

Thanks.

Then I will want to get one of those books, or both.

Hi Aurea, thanks for responding. Do you know Which volume of Black Pearl it is in? I found the pentagram ritual but could not find the hexagram one. I tried the ritual hexagram from the link ...it felt weird to me to say IAO Iacchus, Asi, Orus. I am used to Virgo being Isis and femenine and not father which is masculine, do you know if that makes sense to be calling Virgo father? I thought about how Lucifer is associated with Venus and so is Virgo. Iacchus is a Greek deity, I don't know what Asi and Orus are I guess they could be Greek too.

Hi...They say you should do a LBRP before doing the LBRH...I was wondering if replacing the LBRP with the Star Ruby would work alright?

If anyone could look at this thelemic LBRH that I came across here www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/hexagramrite.htm and let me know what you think about it, I would appreciate it . I'm thinking a may experiment with it.

@Jim Eshelman said

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@raven27 said
"I did the Star Ruby ritual for the first time last night, and again this morning. I like it , but I do not feel like doing a LBRP directly afterward. I was wondering if anyone here has experimented with the Star Ruby and the LIRP, back to back?"

Why would you mix them? (In the same operation?) That seems pretty miswired to me.

What was your reason for even wanting to do that?

"Is the Star Ruby a banishing/invoking ritual all in one?"

All such rituals (and certainly including the LBRP) have an invoking component - you connect to divine sources as the starting point. But maybe the answer has to be No, given the way you asked the question.

The Star Ruby is for banishing, especially as part of a larger ritual where you are going on to do other stuff (or as a "maintenance" ritual on its own.)"

Yeah I know LBRP has both compnents. Actually I was listening to this youtu.be/-blaxgPhOSM
video about the Star Ruby . This guy was saying it is a banishing/invoking "hybrid" ritual . After doing the Star Ruby this morning. I did not really feel like doing a LIRP . But I did one later on in the day ...I think I just like doing the LBRP and LIRP. My question now is, if you are used to doing a LBRP in the morning and a LIRP at night , then if you replace the LBRP with the Star Ruby, what would you do at night ? Could you do the LIRP still or could you just do a Star Ruby again at night too?