No longer interested in ritual magic?
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"I'm not being negative but, at present, although I agree with doing ritualistic hygiene work, drawing energy in, I am no longer interested in using "magic" ritual to try to "make things happen" i.e. manifest things in Assiah anymore. Believe you me, when I was younger it was important for me to try that and it gave me a thrill when I magically manifested events and circumstances."
This is an age old "argument" in magic. Making shit happen in Assiah is a "lust of results," or phenomenal magic and phenomenal magic is not magick per se.
This desire for externalized results is naive and is informed by a desire for power. Very likely you have evolved and are more mature than when it was important to you to manifest events and circumstances.
Ritual in the more mature individual is directed internally and is a form of discipline applied to the accomplishment union with the Divine/Knowlege and Conversation/etc...
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@augur said
"This is an age old "argument" in magic. Making (****) happen in Assiah is a "lust of results," or phenomenal magic and phenomenal magic is not magick per se.
This desire for externalized results is naive and is informed by a desire for power. Very likely you have evolved and are more mature than when it was important to you to manifest events and circumstances.
Ritual in the more mature individual is directed internally and is a form of discipline applied to the accomplishment union with the Divine/Knowlege and Conversation/etc..."
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The only cause of anything is everything.
That is, each thing is as it is because the whole universe is as it is. In Thelemic language (where Hadit is anything and Nuit is everything), each event or consequence or result is the resultant of the totality of all things whatsoever in the universe.
But, then, so are you.
To pick a magical objective that is fully in conformity with your True Will, that objective must be consistent with the necessity of the universe, i.e., a natural outcome of everything being exactly the way it is.
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I hear that someone who has achieved K&C and 6=5 etc, cannot, if you like, cast a spell that fails but those beneath 5=6 can and do have their intent halted.
Thinking about AC, I cannot recall if, after his K&C he wrote that a talismanic charging never yielded results. Did he ever admit to failure to manifest desire magickally post 5=6 and if so , what went wrong...or how could it go wrong?
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Of course he did. Study his published record.
In particular, the farther he went, the clearer he became that he was utterly impotent to accomplish any purpose whatsoever except the direct fulfillment of his True Will: "To teach the Next Step." The Magus is narrower than the tyro, because the Magus has one, and only one, thing that he or she can do, which is the one thing for which he or she was made in the first place. The whole of his or her energy is committed, by decades of consecration, to a single end.
You can find reference to these ideas in Magick Without Tears IIRC, and probably in some footnotes and remarks in Magick in Theory & Practice.
OTOH, the same principle applies to everyone at all stages (except for those who still possess that sublime ignorance called "beginner's luck"): The principle is that if you pick an aim not in alignment with your True Will, then either (1) it will fail or (2) you will derail yourself from your own path. That's much of the sublime power of the 6=5, that by fulfilling the tasks of the Paths of Meym and Lamed, the Adept has deeply joined his or her nature to the Word of the HGA, and lives more or less for no other purpose than to be the device of the extension of that Word. In fact, it's quite impossible for anyone who has succeeded in the task of the Path of Lamed to wander from that Word without either a serious derangement or when making a substantial sacrifice (and perhaps a futile one at that).
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Or, "Wyrd."
Magical ritual is essentially just balancing yourself. As Takamba said, like dancing. You dance to feel yourself and coordinate yourself within your space, and within your own body.
All this talk of "manifesting change within/upon Malkuth reality" is utter nonsense, as we learn that Malkuth is illusion. Becoming the buddha, or the Christ, the Horus, etc.. that is the goal. The more one performs ritual magic, the more one is accustomed to one's self and one's surroundings.
And on the point...
So, walking down the street, you re-coordinate your feet with the level of the ground, since you last walked, you feel the weight of your body and recoordinate that as well. But it's not enough.
Dancing is a little better, but can be used as a complete ritual if the proper foods/drinks/herbs are used.(And I can always dance better if I've been casting circles.)
Eating cabbage, beans, carrots and beef. Same thing, you get your nutrients, you live for another day, you even coordinate your teeth and tounge with the rest of your mouth, but it's not enough.
Wine and strange drugs, combined with dancing seems to be the ultimate exaltation unto the Goddess.This, in turn, with copulating. (But those who drink too much or do not eat enough of the "smarter" herbs might find themselves lacking time for the aforementioned practices, in debt to the new life they created while in stupor.)
The Butterfly Net. or Moonchild, I believe, a good place to look to find a third-person perspective on why magic at all.
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@ThelemicMage said
"All this talk of "manifesting change within/upon Malkuth reality" is utter nonsense, as we learn that Malkuth is illusion."
Wait a minute, that's really flawed logic. (It's even an enthymeme.) Your suppressed second assumption is, "Manifesting change in illusion is utter nonsense."
I can't think of an easier object for manifesting change than illusion! If we accept the principle that "Malkuth is [only] illusion," then the right conclusion is that "manifesting change within/upon Malkuth reality" is easy and actual.
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You do prove an important point. But what he is stating is that it isn't "easy and actual". I suppose what I was really going for was to suggest "working without lust of result." Instead, I have dropped a line that could be interpreted a number a paradoxical ways, suggesting I was probably drunk at the time. Which I was.
All in all, practicing regularly will make you good at something. Be it the dance of dance, the dance of ritual, or the dance of celestial objects. Is it Abramelin where you circle your wand in the air as you go from quarter to quarter? That's some good stuff right there.