Assumption of God-forms.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@gerry456 said
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I don't know man, read his instructions in Liber O. Its nasal inhalation and exhalation as well as visualization.
The more"freaked out" the better."
@Liber O said
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The Magical Images of the Gods of Egypt should be made thoroughly familiar. This can be done by studying them in any public museum, or in such books as may be accessible to the student. They should then be carefully painted by him, both from the model and from memory.
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The student, seated in the "God" position, or in the characteristic attitude of the God desired, should then imagine His image as coinciding with his own body, or as enveloping it. This must be practised until mastery of the image is attained, and an identity with it and with the God experienced.
It is a matter for very great regret that no simple and certain test of success in this practice exists.
"Neither nasal breathing nor "freaked out" result are part of the practice, as given.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@ThelemicMage said
"I mean, how is one to assume the form of Enlil, a god of Creation who wanted to do away with humans before our potential was realized?"
Probably in much the same way one might work with Zeus. Before Prometheos stole the fire of Olympus and gifted it to the mindless clay creatures down on earth, Zeus wanted to scrap the whole thing as a bad effort and start over. But, once Promo enlivened us with the divine spark, there was no stuffing that cat back in Pandora's Box. So Zeus unleashed his spleen all over the poor titan's liver, pouted and brooded for a few millennia, sent a flood to kill off most of the race, and then evolved into the somewhat benevolent Thunder-Father that we know him as today.
Enlil isn't so much different.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
Gerry, these are two separate technics adjacent to each other. Often used together, but not necessarily.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@Jim Eshelman said
"Gerry, these are two separate technics adjacent to each other. Often used together, but not necessarily."
Yes I just went back to Liber O when my man Gnosamai pointed it out to me and I saw that strictly speaking, they are not the same thing and can be isolated practices.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@Jim Eshelman said
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As for other pantheons - yes, after you've mastered the specific assignment, it's normal to spread out and try other things. In particular, the Hebrew angels and archangels make up a substantial percentage of the forms used."
AC writes
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- The Magical Images of the Gods of Egypt should be made thoroughly familiar. This can be done by studying them in any public museum, or in such books as may be accessible to the student. .*
... but the 7 Archangels and Angels don't appear to have a standard image. People, throughout the centuries have just assumed that they look like male adolescent Caucasian catalogue models only wearing white robes and having big white wings. That's not much to go on whereas the Gods of Egypt were painted in full regalia and colour on temple walls.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@gerry456 said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"As for other pantheons - yes, after you've mastered the specific assignment, it's normal to spread out and try other things. In particular, the Hebrew angels and archangels make up a substantial percentage of the forms used."
AC writes
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- The Magical Images of the Gods of Egypt should be made thoroughly familiar. This can be done by studying them in any public museum, or in such books as may be accessible to the student. .*
... but the 7 Archangels and Angels don't appear to have a standard image. People, throughout the centuries have just assumed that they look like male adolescent Caucasian catalogue models only wearing white robes and having big white wings. That's not much to go on whereas the Gods of Egypt were painted in full regalia and colour on temple walls."
To the student of the yoga of the west (qabalistic magick, Golden Dawn tradition, et al), there are standard forms. You should learn them. The angels are described by the spellings of their names.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@gerry456 said
"Are there any internet resources with colour code descriptions?
I'm out at the moment, is it in Jim's 776 1\2 book?"
I don't own 776 1/2. Why would one need an "internet resource." It should be in all your qabalah (my preferred spelling). Have you not read anything by Regardie? I don't think he goes a book without mentioning it.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
@Takamba said
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@gerry456 said
"Are there any internet resources with colour code descriptions?I'm out at the moment, is it in Jim's 776 1\2 book?"
I don't own 776 1/2. Why would one need an "internet resource." It should be in all your qabalah (my preferred spelling). Have you not read anything by Regardie? I don't think he goes a book without mentioning it."
I've got Regardies TOL.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
www.naturesworkshop.co.uk/AngelWingsAngels.aspx
I think I got there.
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In Liber O's section III Assumption of God-forms Crowley states that the Egyptian Gods are to be used. This is a practice employing visualization and a short sharp exhalation in order to blow away normal perceptions. I'm not talking about God-atonement within Cabbalistic ceremony.
What about Gods from other pantheons, are they suitable for this practice? Why the Egyptian pantheon?
Might want to check out a site not selling stuff.
IE:Wikipedia (Yes, even!)
"To anthroposophists, Samael is known as one of the seven archangels: Saint Gregory gives the seven archangels as Anael, Gabriel, Michael, Oriphiel, Raphael, Samael and Zachariel.[citation needed] They are all imagined to have a special assignment to act as a global zeitgeist ("time-spirit"), each for periods of about 360 years.[14] Since 1879, anthroposophists posit, Michael has been the leading time spirit. Four important archangels are also supposed to display periodic spiritual activity over the seasons: Raphael during the spring, Uriel during the summer, Michael during the autumn, and Gabriel during the winter."