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Helios chant from Dion Fortune

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    AliceKnewIt
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    This chant is on page 266 of "The Demon Lover" by Dion Fortune:

    Helios, Helios, Quanto Rhopantanek!
    Quanto Rhopantanek Helion!

    Google translate did not help me, I don't know what it means.
    Anyone study Latin?

    Here is a lovely rendition of chant by two Brazilian singers:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9jcXn5hb4k

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    Danica
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    "Helios, Helios, Quanto Rhopantanek!
    Quanto Rhopantanek Helion!"

    I don't have the book, so can't look it up for myself.
    If it's written virtually like this, then it's a mixture of languages.
    The only clear Latin word above is Quanto; Helios is a Greek word; Rhopantanek sounds Greek (though I did not get any meaningful hint from Google translate for this).

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    AliceKnewIt
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    Quanto means "by how much"

    latinmeaning.com/quanto-latin-to-english-translation

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    HRUMACHIS
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    Try Greek, ATV

    Liber Resh vel Helios

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    AliceKnewIt
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    @HRUMACHIS said

    "Try Greek, ATV

    Liber Resh vel Helios"

    What is "ATV" ?

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    Danica
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    Rhopantanek may be divided into parts:

    Rho (ρω) - panta (παντα) - nek

    ρω = the short form of "I ask"
    παντα = all/everything/continuity

    -nek isn't Greek (I've searched for suffixes, and this definitely isn't a Greek suffix, nor a word in Greek)

    Quanto is a clear Latin word, and I could not find any Greek word with the same root.

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    Gnosomai Emauton
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    In context, it's meant to be an Atlantean invocation. Best guess is that Fortune created words that could feasibly have come down to Greek and Latin from a common "Atlantean" source.

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    AliceKnewIt
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    @danica said

    "Rhopantanek may be divided into parts:

    Rho (ρω) - panta (παντα) - nek

    ρω = the short form of "I ask"
    παντα = all/everything/continuity

    -nek isn't Greek (I've searched for suffixes, and this definitely isn't a Greek suffix, nor a word in Greek)

    Quanto is a clear Latin word, and I could not find any Greek word with the same root."

    THANK YOU !

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    AliceKnewIt
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    So roughly, it's something like:

    Helios, Helios, How much I ask for everything!
    How much I ask for everything, Helion!

    😄

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    AliceKnewIt
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    Here is a beautiful rendition of the chant, sung by two young men from Brazil:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9jcXn5hb4k

    🦋

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