Osiris Risen pose and the Lazarus reflex
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I was watching this amusing video and she mentions a couple minutes into it a "Lazarus relex". Someone who is brain dead, but the doctors are keeping their body alive for organ donations, may make movements. She demonstrated the movement of her arms - crossing them over her chest just as in the Osiris risen pose. So that must be where the pose originated, I imagine that the ancient Egyptian embalmers came across that pose often enough.
Anyway, the video is "Mary Roach: 10 things you didn't know about orgasm"
inyurl.com/q7nomzI googled "Lazarus reflex" but didn't find anything more on the Osiris risen pose.... Perhaps if I had more patience.
Anyone know about this?
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Here's a reference from a Catholic site to the Lazarus reflex. Often it involves the corpse sitting up, and the corspe may or may not cross his/her arms:
forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=50919
“Dr. Conrado Estol, a neurologist from Argentina, spoke strongly in favor of harvesting human organs. He presented a dramatic video of a man diagnosed as ‘brain dead’ who attempted to sit up and cross his arms (an act Estol called a ‘Lazarus reflex.’)”I found an interesting reference here, from a book titled "The Facts of Death". The author says that often the reflex happens when the doctors make an abdominal incision to remove organs. This is very,very interesting because ancient Egyptian embalmers also made abdominal incisions to remove organs.
inyurl.com/pg4zu7 -
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"Quote Tamara: Anyone know about this? "
I don't know anything about it but, it is a fascinating tread Tamara! Everything you have found appears to suggest that this position (The Osiris risen pose) is hardwired in our nervous system. It's creepy and captivating at the same time!
I do have a newbie question, what does the Osiris risen pose mean? -
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@Ankh said
" I do have a newbie question, what does the Osiris risen pose mean?"
In ancient Egypt, Osiris was the God of the Dead. He first ruled on earth, until he was murdered by his brother Seth. He was the first to be mummified. He is usually depicted as a mummy with a green face. The green symbolizes growing vegetation. He was identified with crops that are cut down but grow again.
Osiris judged the souls of the Dead before they were welcomed into the Afterlife. (or sent to eternal torture if they were wicked). Osiris was the first God to give humans life after death.
Osiris almost always has his arms crossed over his chest, and he holds two scepters, the crook and the flail. These are tools that shepherds use.
The mummies of Pharaohs were posed with their arms crossed over their chests, like Osiris. Usually the right arm is on top of the left. I don't know why. Non-royal people were mummified with their arms at their sides.
I am more familiar with ancient Egypt than with Thelema at this point, so I have to leave it to others to explain it from a Thelemic viewpoint.