Mass of the Phoenix

DavidH

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Somewhere I read Crowley refering to the Mass of the Phoenix as the "Exoteric Mass of the Phoenix." Why would it be exoteric?

What is the proper way to make cakes of light? I've seen several ways, all slightly different. Does TOT have a specific way that is taught? In one place I read that a cake should be burned and the ashes used in the creation of new cakes that are consumed. Is this true?

How much blood is needed and how is it drawn during the Mass?

bethata418

THELEMA

the ash method is used in i believe all OTO events, this is due to stop the FEAR of getting a disease. but it has nothing to do with stopping the acual disease, like HIV/AIDS because cooking the cake does that.

AGAPE

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Frater56

I heard that sperm is used in abremelen oil, which also goes into the recipe for the cakes of light. Is this true? I find this slightly disgusting if true, and I'm wondering if there are any alternate recipes. Thanks.

DavidH

I've never heard of that for abramelin oil. What is your source?

Frater56

A friend. She might have been joking, it's hard to tell with her sometimes...

Jim Eshelman

Sperm (as part of semen, or in any other form) is not part of the recipe of Abramelin Oil.

Frater56

Phew! Thank you!