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  • D DavidH

    I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

    Almond
    Peppermint
    Eucalyptus
    Tea Green
    Lavender

    And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

    This is my idea so far:

    Mixing three

    1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
    2. Almond (for Hadit)
    3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

    Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

    What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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    TripleFlower
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    I dunno, seems a little complex. All those herbs and all their energies... maybe something simple and pure, like Crowley used Hyssop I believe, which is also a natural antimicrobial. Almond is a pretty nice nuetral base, we use it in herbalism frequently to dilute other herbs. So perhaps an almond oil soap with hyssop.

    Also, concerning the attributes.... peppermint is cooling...I tend to think of RA-Hoor-Kuit as hot fire. But perhaps this is only my perspective. I would go with cinnamon instead or something else hot, even hot pepper...

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    • D DavidH

      I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

      Almond
      Peppermint
      Eucalyptus
      Tea Green
      Lavender

      And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

      This is my idea so far:

      Mixing three

      1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
      2. Almond (for Hadit)
      3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

      Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

      What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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      DavidH
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      #3

      Thanks. All good points!

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      • D DavidH

        I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

        Almond
        Peppermint
        Eucalyptus
        Tea Green
        Lavender

        And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

        This is my idea so far:

        Mixing three

        1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
        2. Almond (for Hadit)
        3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

        Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

        What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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        Draco Magnus
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        This is a fun topic.

        I would include not just eucalytpus, but copal, pine, and amber as resinous woods. For gums, liquidambar and nyssa. Especially for Nuit. You could use these as in extracts or oils for the aroma. The lotus and rose are good scents too.

        For Hadit, almond is a good choice. Ambergris can be an addition. Even hemp seed.

        For Ra Hoor Khuit, I good go with tallow for the base. You know, fleshy. 😄 And honey. And corn or other grain. And wine or grapes? But the other thing would be to use some kind of blood, even if it's just dragon's blood.

        You can find most of the attributions in 777.

        As a Thelemite, I might even buy a soap if I thought it was suitable, but I wouldn't bother with regular stuff like lavender or green tea when there are so many other brands.

        93, 93/93

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        • D DavidH

          I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

          Almond
          Peppermint
          Eucalyptus
          Tea Green
          Lavender

          And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

          This is my idea so far:

          Mixing three

          1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
          2. Almond (for Hadit)
          3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

          Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

          What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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          Chris Hanlon
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          Very cool project. When you are happy with your concoction, would you like to sell a few bars to us?
          Thanks,
          chrys333

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          • D DavidH

            I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

            Almond
            Peppermint
            Eucalyptus
            Tea Green
            Lavender

            And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

            This is my idea so far:

            Mixing three

            1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
            2. Almond (for Hadit)
            3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

            Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

            What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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            DavidH
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            When I am done with testing and from input from folks like you, I'll make it and sell it at my cost in bottles. I'm making a liquid soap - I find it easier and cleaner to use. I know the attributes in 777 but some are not appropriate in a soap and some are not available.

            Keep throwing out ideas and I'll let you know about the results. The first ingredients I listed were not planned for use, they are the ones readily available as liquid natural soap. Ra Hoor Kuit seems to be the biggest problem. Peppermint is no good? How about cinnamon and dragon' blood? Where does Dragon's blood fall on the tree in 777?

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            • D DavidH

              I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

              Almond
              Peppermint
              Eucalyptus
              Tea Green
              Lavender

              And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

              This is my idea so far:

              Mixing three

              1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
              2. Almond (for Hadit)
              3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

              Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

              What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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              Jim Eshelman
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              Dragon's blood is the primary Geburan incense.

              Cinnamon is really risky in a skin product!

              PS - I initially thought that this thread was about episodic daytime TV dramas. 👿

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              • D DavidH

                I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                Almond
                Peppermint
                Eucalyptus
                Tea Green
                Lavender

                And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                This is my idea so far:

                Mixing three

                1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                2. Almond (for Hadit)
                3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                DavidH
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                #8

                @Jim Eshelman said

                "
                PS - I initially thought that this thread was about episodic daytime TV dramas. 👿"

                ROFLMAO!!! 😆

                Hmmm....maybe we should start one! 👿

                A few ideas:

                AS THE WILL TURNS

                THE YOUNG AND THE THELEMIC

                CROWLEY HOSPITAL

                TEN LIVES TO LIVE

                GUIDING LVX

                ALL MY CHILDREN OF THE STAR AND SNAKE

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                • D DavidH

                  I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                  Almond
                  Peppermint
                  Eucalyptus
                  Tea Green
                  Lavender

                  And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                  This is my idea so far:

                  Mixing three

                  1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                  2. Almond (for Hadit)
                  3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                  Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                  What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                  LPD Nu
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                  Hi All,

                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                  If I may chime in: I agree with the opinion that such a soap would best serve the purpose of a simple cleansing. An overly fragrant soap could interfere with the subsequent ritual. Hell, when I'm preparing for such work I haven't been satisfied with any soap and just go for very hot water and, at most, dried rose blossoms (since that to me seems to include the Supernal in the Form of Binah and the Briatic world--all this is quite idiosyncratic I know).

                  I'm leaning toward Hyssop and the most neutral (or at least light) scents possible.

                  Love is the law, love under will.

                  Fr. Z. T.

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                  • D DavidH

                    I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                    Almond
                    Peppermint
                    Eucalyptus
                    Tea Green
                    Lavender

                    And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                    This is my idea so far:

                    Mixing three

                    1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                    2. Almond (for Hadit)
                    3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                    Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                    What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                    DavidH
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                    #10

                    Brother,

                    I am not 100% hooked on the idea, only thinking of it. I agree with you totally if I were going to be doing certain Kabbalistic work of a sephiroth since those "smells" may go against the work at hand. I was thinking of using it prior to General Thelemic work (if there is such thing!), meditation, ritual, etc. If I were doing specific work needing a very clean slate, then I would use something along the lines you suggested. Maybe it is a bad idea in any situation, I don't know. Just trying to get others opinions on it to see if it's worth pursuing.

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                    • D DavidH

                      I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                      Almond
                      Peppermint
                      Eucalyptus
                      Tea Green
                      Lavender

                      And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                      This is my idea so far:

                      Mixing three

                      1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                      2. Almond (for Hadit)
                      3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                      Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                      What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                      LPD Nu
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                      93 David,

                      I don't think it's a bad idea at all. I just wanted to chime in with some input. Actually, you could very well be on to something. Especially if you considered several different selections of soap. You know, one appropriate for prepping for a banishing,
                      another set of selections for invoking the various elements, etc.

                      I think you should be encouraged along these lines. IMAO (In My Arrogant Opinion, lol)

                      93 93/93,

                      Fr. Z. T.

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                      • D DavidH

                        I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                        Almond
                        Peppermint
                        Eucalyptus
                        Tea Green
                        Lavender

                        And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                        This is my idea so far:

                        Mixing three

                        1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                        2. Almond (for Hadit)
                        3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                        Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                        What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                        azure
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                        #12

                        Sandlewood soap is nice and readily available. Chinese and Indian stores often carry the bar soaps and I think Trader Joes has a liquid form, of course making your own is fun too. 😜

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                        • D DavidH

                          I'm trying to come up with a Thelemic Soap that can be used for showers before ritual work as a cleansing. I wanted to get the opinion of other Thelemites as to the ingredients. So far, this is what I am working with as available soaps that can mixed:

                          Almond
                          Peppermint
                          Eucalyptus
                          Tea Green
                          Lavender

                          And then any drops of other oils can be put in small amounts.

                          This is my idea so far:

                          Mixing three

                          1. Eucalyptus for Nuit (Resinous wood) I.59
                          2. Almond (for Hadit)
                          3. Peppermint for Ra Hoor Kuit

                          Then we can add a drop of Abramelin oil and maybe Rose.

                          What do you think of these? Any other ingredient ideas?

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                          gerry456
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                          @DavidH said

                          "
                          @Jim Eshelman said
                          "
                          PS - I initially thought that this thread was about episodic daytime TV dramas. 👿"
                          "

                          i did too!

                          The Hex Files?

                          AUMGN and Away?

                          Kabbalistic Crossroads?

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