The Holy Guardian Angel VIA Liber Samekh
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I would LOVE a demonstration of Liber Samekh
Or a resource where I can see it actually performed, I have no Idea how to start the Liber Samekh, I just want to see it to get an idea
can someone please give me some insight to a brother thelemite
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F.R King Solomon -
First of all, that's a VERY advanced ritual - issued to individuals who are already 5=6 A.'.A.'..
Second of all, that isn't any reason for you not to do it!
Have you read the Scholion completely? At which point of the ritual do the published instructions become unclear?
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everything. My lodge in the oto kinda snubs me when i ask for this
I know you must have a wand and a chalice. bell and lbrp dagger and a kabbalistic altar, also with incense of abramelin
and a black robe to do the ritualbut the wording in liber samekh, when do i say what needs to be said I heard you keep doing it, and doing it, and then the HGA will come.
Then a rosicrucian told me to write : what is the name of my holy guardian angel and I want to talk to him. and put that under my pillow at night and he will come when my mind is most silent.
I like liber samekh better, because it's a ritual and it's ceremonial and it's not as goofy.
I dont know how to perform it .. period.
maybe you can help
thanks
king solomon -
First of all, Liber Samekh is to result in the K&C of the HGA after a long period of systematical performing, more than once a day. Which will bear success only if the whole working is fervent enough, I suppose.
However, Liber Samekh is also performed as an opening ritual and for other purposes of which I am unaware.
A question would be: Crowley clearly states that Liber Samekh is to be performed in the Body of Light (and when one gets to 5=6, I suppose he has a pretty "sharply-controled" Body of Light). However, for ritual opening purposes it is most of the times performed in the physical plane. Are there people who have done the operation for the HGA via Liber Samekh in the physical plane?
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@Kingsolomon said
"but the wording in liber samekh, when do i say what needs to be said I heard you keep doing it, and doing it, and then the HGA will come."
Presuming that you are properly prepared (say, by prior work), yes.
"Everything" is too big a question. If you have some specificd questions, we can attempt to answer them. As a start, read the Scholion carefully, from the beginning, and note the exact additional recommendations it gives.
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Ok Jim, and the rest of the forum.. I'll break down my problems with liber samekh. Are yall ready?
Liber Samekh
Theurgia Goetia Summa
Congressus Cum Daemone)
Sub Figura DCCCOFFICIAL PUBLICATION of A...A...
Class D for the Grade of Adeptus Minor.Section A.
The Oath
(How are you supposed to prepare in your altar to invoke this oath, what are you supposed to be doing to make this part of the ritual correct?)
- Thee I invoke, the Bornless One.
- Thee, that didst create the Earth and the Heavens.
- Thee, that didst create the Night and the Day.
- Thee, that didst create the darkness and the Light.
- Thou art ASAR UN-NEFER ("Myself made Perfect"):
Whom no man hath seen at any time. - Thou art IA-BESZ ("the Truth in Matter").
- Thou art IA-APOPHRASZ ("the Truth in Motion").
- Thou hast distinguished between the Just and the Unjust.
- Thou didst make the Female and the Male.
- Thou didst produce the Seeds and the Fruit.
- Thou didst form Men to love one another, and to hate one another.
Section Aa.
- I am ANKH - F - N - KHONSU hy Prophet, unto Whom Thou didst commit Thy Mysteries, the Ceremonies of KHEM.
- Thou didst produce the moist and the dry, and that which nourisheth all created Life.
- Hear Thou Me, for I am the Angel of PTAH - APO - PHRASZ - RA (vide the Rubric): this is Thy True Name, handed down to the Prophets of KHEM.
Section B.
Air
(with that are you supposed to face the direction of the elements.. the direction of Air to do this part of the ritual corectly?)(and IAF pronounced EEEEE-AAAAA-FFFFFF? correct?)
and ThIAF as well
RhEIBET,OK, where can I find these pronounciations?
Hear Me: -
AR "O breathing, flowing Sun!"
ThIAF 1 "O Sun IAF! O Lion-Serpent Sun, The Beast that whirlest forth, a thunder- bolt, begetter of Life!"
RhEIBET "Thou that flowest! Thou that goest!"
A-ThELE-BER-SET "Thou Satan-Sun Hadith that goest without Will!"
A "Thou Air! Breath! Spirit! Thou without bound or bond!"
BELAThA "Thou Essence, Air Swift-streaming, Elasticity!"
ABEU "Thou Wanderer, Father of All!"
EBEU "Thou Wanderer, Spirit of All!"
PhI-ThETA-SOE "Thou Shining Force of Breath! Thou Lion-Serpent Sun! Thou Saviour, save!"
IB "Thou Ibis, secret solitary Bird, inviolate Wisdom, whose Word in Truth, creating the World by its Magick!"
ThIAF "O Sun IAF! O Lion-Serpent Sun, The Beas that whirlest forth, a thunder- bolt, begetter of Life!"Now, Do I do ALL the sections, because it also shows section G and Gg and H as I copied Below. The attainment. Thats part of the same ritual? Correct?
I know i'm asking stupid questions, but my oto local body doesnt tell me jack squat.. they act like they dont even want me around. pretty soon their wish will come true.
Section G.
SpiritHear Me: -
IEOU "Indwelling Sun of Myself"
PUR "Thou Fire! Thou Sixfold Star initiator compassed about with Force and Fire!"
IOU "Indwelling Soul of Myself"
PUR (Vide Supra)
IAFTh "Sun-lion Serpent, hail! All Hail, thou Great Wild Beast, thou I A O!"
IAEO "Breaths of my soul, breaths of mine Angel."
IOOU "Lust of my soul, lust of mine Angel!"
ABRASAX (Vide Supra).
SABRIAM "Ho for the Sangraal! Ho for the Cup of Babalon! Ho for mine Angel pouring Himself forth within my Soul!"
OO "The Eye! Satan, my Lord! The Lust of the goat!"
FF "Mine Angel! Mine initiator! Thou one with me - the Sixfold Star!"
AD-ON-A-I 1 "My Lord! My secret self beyond self, Hadith, All Father! Hail, ON, thou Sun, thou Life of Man, thou Fivefold Sword of Flame! Thou Goat exalted upon Earth in Lust, thou Snake extended upon Earth in Life! Spirit most holy! Seed most Wise! Innocent Babe. Inviolate Maid! Begetter of Being! Soul of all Souls! Word of all Words, Come forth, most hidden Light!"
EDE "Devour thou me!"
EDU "Thou dost devour Me!"
ANGELOS TON ThEON "Thou Angel of the Gods!"
ANLALA "Arise thou in Me, free flowing, Thou who art Naught, who art Naught, and utter thy Word!"
LAI "I also am Naught! I Will Thee! I behold Thee! My nothingness!"
GAIA "Leap up, thou Earth!" (This is also an agonising appeal to the Earth, the Mother; for at this point of the ceremony the Adept should be torn from his mortal attachments, and die to himself in the orgasm of his operation.) 2
AEPE "Thou Exalted One! It (i.e. the spritual 'semen', the Adept's secret ideas, drawn irresistibly from their 'Hell' 3 by the love of his Angel) leaps up; it leaps forth! 4
DIATHARNA THORON "Lo! the out-splashing of the seeds of Immortality"Section Gg.
The AttainmentI am He! the Bornless Spirit! having sight in the feet: Strong, and the Immortal Fire!
I am He! the Truth!
I am He! Who hate that evil should be wrought in the World!
I am He, that lighteneth and thundereth!
I am He, from whom is the Shower of the Life of Earth!
I am He, whose mouth ever flameth!
I am He, the Begetter and Manifester unto the Light!
I am He, The Grace of the Worlds!
"The Heart Girt with a Serpent" is my name!
Section H.
The "Charge to the Spirit"Come thou forth, and follow me: and make all Spirits subject unto Me so that every Spirit of the Firmament, and of the Ether, upon the Earth and under the Earth: on dry Land, or in the Water: of Whirling Air or of rushing Fire, and every Spell and scourge of God, may be obedient unto me!
Section J.
The Proclamation of the Beast 666IAF:SABAF 1
Such are the Words!1See explanation in Point II.
Those are all my questions
I just want to know how to correctly perform this with the questions as I listed above
thank you
King Solomon -
Just a thought before Jim responds, but isn't Samekh supposed to performed exclusively in the Body of Light? It says as much at the beginning of the text.
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No offense but all these points are explained, line by line, by Crowley in the Scholion. He says to perform it in your Body of Light, i.e. in your mind not in the physical reality quite clearly as the person above observed. He performed an analogous ritual while sitting atop an ass (the fact that that word is censored is ridiculous) that happened to topple over a cliff once.
On how to vibrate names, that instruction is given in Liber O quite concisely. All the instructions otherwise would be found at the end of the ritual.
"(How are you supposed to prepare in your altar to invoke this oath, what are you supposed to be doing to make this part of the ritual correct?) "
If you had read the very first line of the Scholion you would've found:
"Let the Adeptus Minor be standing in this circle on the square of Tiphereth, armed with his Wand and Cup; but let him perform the Ritual throughout in his Body of Light. He may burn the Cakes of Light, or the Incense of Abramelin; he may be prepared by Liber CLXXV, the reading of Liber LXV, and by the practices of Yoga. He may invoke Hadit by "... wine and strange drugs" if he so will. 1 He prepares the circle by the usual formulae of Banishing and Consecration, etc. He recites Section A as a rehearsal before His Holy Guardian Angel of the attributes of that Angel. Each phrase must be realized with full concentration of force, so as to make Samadhi as perfectly as possible upon the truth proclaimed."Then you ask:
"(with that are you supposed to face the direction of the elements.. the direction of Air to do this part of the ritual corectly?) "
If you go to Section B of the Scholion like you logically might, you would find:
"He is to travel astrally around the circle, making the appropriate pentagrams, sigils, and signs. His direction is widdershins. He thus makes three curves, each covering three-fourths of the circle. He should give the sign of the Enterer on passing the Kiblah, or Direction of Boleskine. This picks up the force naturally radiating from that point 1 and projects it in the direction of the path of the Magician. The sigils are those given in the Equinox Vol. I, No. 7, Plate X outside the square; the signs those shewn in Vol. I, No. 2, Plate "The Signs of the Grades". In these invocations he should expand his girth and his stature to the utmost 2, assuming the form and the consciousness of the elemental god of the quarter. After this, he begins to vibrate the "Barbarous Names" of the Ritual."
Etc... go into Liber Samekh & read, there is much more in this section and others.
You then ask:
"(and IAF pronounced EEEEE-AAAAA-FFFFFF? correct?) "
Actually, no. It is the name IAO. The F is the Roman equivalent of the out-of-use Greek letter Digamma which is cognate to the Hebrew Vav (IAO in Hebrew is sometimes spelled Yod-Aleph-Vav makes it equal 17 the number of squares in a swastika, etc. It is also spelled as Yod-Aleph-Ayin). There is an entire chapter in Magick in Theory adn Practice on IAO and the "new" word of FIAOF or VIAOV that I recommend you read to understand IAO better.
Its pronounced: EEEEEE (as in "feet")-AAAAAAAAA (as in "ball")-OOOOOOO (as in "phone")
Whenever you see an "F" in the words, do an "O" sound. Its actually somewhere between an "Oh" and an "Oo" but I would just do an "Oh" sound.
Pronounce the words phonetically and to the best of your ability. If you take the words to be Hebrew, "Th" is actually still a "T" sound as Crowley is distinguishing the Hebrew letter of Tav as "Th" from Teth as "T" for numerical purposes and such. If you consider it as Greek (as they obviously are for some) then "Th" would most likely be referring to Theta and "T" to Tau. It doenst really matter, they are Barbarous names. I would even recommend disregarding all the interpretations in parentheses next to the words as it is kind of self-defeating.
You then ask: "Now, Do I do ALL the sections, because it also shows section G and Gg and H as I copied Below. The attainment. Thats part of the same ritual? Correct? "
Do every single section in the Ritual until it goes into the Scholion and starts talking about the Ritual, which, once again, you need to go and read.
Your last words are "IAF SABAF [IAO SABAO, cognate of YVHH Tzabaoth, etc.] Such are the words!"
You then say: "I know i'm asking stupid questions, but my oto local body doesnt tell me jack squat.. they act like they dont even want me around. pretty soon their wish will come true."
You are in the sense that you didnt take the time to read the entire ritual and see the scholion at the end. This shoudl be a lesson to you that you can not depend on people outside of yourself to do the work or to really teach you anything. They can only point towards some truth thats already within yourself, make you see it clearer (that is, if theyre good).
Bottom line: Read the Scholion at the end of the ritual. Forget about others and OTO in the sense that they can somehow show you the way - the work needs to be done. Its not called the Great Work for nothing. And also: Invoke often.
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@aum418 said
"He performed an analogous ritual while sitting atop an {@$$} (the fact that that word is censored is ridiculous)"
In this context, I agree. It's not the most common way that it's used on the web.
As a point of policy, I decided that I would use word censoring to "clean up our act" a bit, but to censor it in such a way that it was transparent what the word is. (That is, censor the packaging, but don't censor information.)
Thelema is a philosophy of inclusive elitism, and the College of Thelema has held the position, from its founding, that a spiritual aristocracy polishes up its presentation a bit here and there where it's merely a matter of manners.
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@aum418 said
"Bottom line: Read the Scholion at the end of the ritual."
Agreed in toto. Thanks aum418.
This was the question I asked earlier that I don't think you ever directly answered: "Have you read the Scholion completely?" And: "As a start, read the Scholion carefully, from the beginning, and note the exact additional recommendations it gives."
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No, i didnt read everything all the way
What IMTIMIDATED ME was the words and the wording of the scholion. but. If the ritual is done in the body of light
I must start doing the
circle of light ritual
Yoga
and Understand KabbalahDo you all agree
thanks
King solomon"To be wise is to know thyself. Only the foolish assume the obvious."
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Personally, I recommend doing all steps of the A.'.A.'. Grades below Adeptus Minor to get the foundation - there are things learned and capacities gained in pretty much every step of the way.
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i've done liber samekh a lot, actually had it fully memorized and was doing it twice a day for a while.
i don't have K&C however..
regardless, it's one hell of a ritual that DID produce some fantastic results.. hence, if one has the courage to dare, DO IT!
if nothing else, do it in service to your Angel/Daimon whatever.. to better know that being, with the proper concentration/energy level/enthusiasm you generally WILL have results in my experience..
or you may just totally go insane..
but whats a little insanity when the possibilities are so great right?
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I heard of people doing liber samekh and not getting K&C, however, have you done the abramelin working, the full version?
taking off 6 months of work, and committing yourself to the same way Aleister Crowley did it at Boleskine?
theres also Ritual VIII. I wanted to know whos had success on Ritual VIII
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@Kingsolomon said
"theres also Ritual VIII. I wanted to know whos had success on Ritual VIII"
Ritual VIII was the basis of my 5=6 operation, which was succssful.
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Ritual VIII looks difficult
I would have to ask a person who performed it to give me a visual on how to do it..
and plus, they say that you HGA can appear to you visibly
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Kingsolomon said
"theres also Ritual VIII. I wanted to know whos had success on Ritual VIII"Ritual VIII was the basis of my 5=6 operation, which was succssful."
I hope this question will not be too personal, given the character of the operation...
@Liber VIII said
"All that day shall he remain in the enjoyment of the knowledge and conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel.
And for three days after he shall remain from sunrise unto sunset in the temple, and he shall obey the counsel that his Angel shall have given unto him, and he shall suffer those things that are appointed.
And for ten days thereafter shall he withdraw himself as shall have been taught unto him from the fullness of that communion, for he must harmonize the world that is within with the world that is without. "
Are these "three days" nearly identical to the work in the Abramelin operation, i.e. evocation of the Demonic Princes??? If not,what kind of ordeals are we speaking about?
(Speaking english as a foreigner, I presume "to withdraw himself" means "to isolate himself from the world", just without the prayer. Correct?)
On a side note: What's your oppinion on Newcomb's "21st century mage"??? In spite of the fact that I do not have the experience to tell, I don't think that the results from what he is advocating is everywhere near the K&C of the HGA. I mean, his "Evocation of the Demonic Princes" seems to be WAAAAAYYYY too psychological and not-grounded-in-Assiah.
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@Kingsolomon said
"Ritual VIII looks difficult "
It's simply a refinement, by Aiwass, of the classic Abramelin operation.
"I would have to ask a person who performed it to give me a visual on how to do it.."
First, you need to understand that this isn't a fixed, specific ritual. Liber VIII is a framework within which one develops one's own specific implementation. This is nominally referenced in the ritual by the mention of the invocation one will write. For example, this isn't an alternative to Liber Samekh so much as a framework within which to determine the exact means you will use for your distinct operation. The formula and means employed are highly individual. The mature Dominus Liminis or new Adeptus Minor will already have sufficient connection to the Angel that they have guidance in how to approach this - the Angel teaches it. How much guidance others have (who have not undertaken the formal work to lead to the threshold) depends on the depth and authenticity of their existing connection.
In my case, the method was a fusion of everything mystical and magical I had learned worked for me to that point. The basic element was intense, passionate ritual of invocation leading to a peak that generally delivered me to a state where all of my Raja Yoga training allowed me to move across the line. This was supported by various disciplines (mostly certain points of view and ways of working with the phenomena of my world) throughout the day.
"and plus, they say that you HGA can appear to you visibly"
Yes. Absolutely true. There is even a couple of ways in which this is true for physical site. However, to understand the above statement correctly, you need to join it to Crowley's statements that the Body of Light is vehicle wherein the K&C of the HGA occurs, and one's deepening access to those realms is the means of approaching the intimacy.
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I had written a lengthy answer to YHVH's last post. Before I could send, my computer, which normally runs perfectly, picked the moment before the sende to do a hardware wigout and there was no recovery.
I think I must take this as an instruction not to post that answer! (There is also the practical consideration that I don't have time to redo it right now.)
The gist of many points in the answer is that these things are highly individual and I'd hate to generalize.
A few other points...
@YHVH said
"I hope this question will not be too personal, given the character of the operation..."
Any question is OK. I may choose not to answer some.
"Are these "three days" nearly identical to the work in the Abramelin operation, i.e. evocation of the Demonic Princes??? If not,what kind of ordeals are we speaking about?"
The ordeals are highly personal and individual. There is no way to prepare for them, except that they are consequent to all choices previously made in one's life.
I wouldn't generalize for others on whether these are the same three days as described in Abramelin. In any case, the instruction for how to spend them comes from the Angel.
I had written a specific, personal, moderately detailed addressing to the question of the Princes, Sub-Princes, and spirits, and that was just before the computer was temporarily zapped. For now, therefore, I'll trust that I wasn't supposed to write it.