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  • M Metzareph

    93,
    While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
    In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
    Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
    Thanks!

    93s

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    Metzareph
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    Wow! thanks Jim. I just checked my post and I noticed that Gimel, Samekh, Gimel is not 70 but 66.

    ""...but above them, as the primary influence shining down through them, is Aleph, The Fool, of which this Æthyr appears to be an expression.""

    Interesting... is there a connection between Horus and the Fool?

    ""The only thing to recommend against it is that, both in Hebrew and Greek, it is specific to the idea of “goddess” – ALYLH, elilah and ThEAINA, theaina – yet this one vision, compared to those leading to it, is unique in not being a goddess vision. ""

    Crowley mentions this name IAIDA that enumerates to 26. Do you have the Hebrew breakdown?

    Thanks!
    93s

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    • M Metzareph

      93,
      While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
      In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
      Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
      Thanks!

      93s

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      Jim Eshelman
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      @Metzareph said

      "
      ""...but above them, as the primary influence shining down through them, is Aleph, The Fool, of which this Æthyr appears to be an expression.""

      Interesting... is there a connection between Horus and the Fool?"

      Yes. Specifically with Harpocrates. For a more thorough development of this, see The Book of Thoth on The Fool. For a quick symbolic note, note that some earlier Tarot decks showed The Fool as a toddler.

      "Crowley mentions this name IAIDA that enumerates to 26. Do you have the Hebrew breakdown?"

      Sure. Very straightforward. IAIDA = Yod Aleph Yod Daleth Aleph = 26.

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      • M Metzareph

        93,
        While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
        In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
        Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
        Thanks!

        93s

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        Metzareph
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        @Jim Eshelman said

        "
        Yes. Specifically with Harpocrates."

        Cool, so it is more the "innocence" aspect.

        Thanks Jim!

        93s!

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        • M Metzareph

          93,
          While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
          In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
          Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
          Thanks!

          93s

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          Red Eagle of Death
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          @Jim Eshelman said

          "LIL = Cancer, Sagittarius, Cancer = Cheth, Samekh, Cheth"

          ...but I thought LIL = Lamed, Yod, Lamed(Libra, Virgo, Libra)...how can LIL = ChSCh?

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          • M Metzareph

            93,
            While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
            In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
            Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
            Thanks!

            93s

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            Jim Eshelman
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            @Red Eagle of Death said

            "
            @Jim Eshelman said
            "LIL = Cancer, Sagittarius, Cancer = Cheth, Samekh, Cheth"

            ...but I thought LIL = Lamed, Yod, Lamed(Libra, Virgo, Libra)...how can LIL = ChSCh?"

            See my first post on this thread. In this context, this is an Enochian name, not Hebrew. Crowley used a means (that he had learned in the GD) of equating the Enochian alphabet to geomantic figures which, in turn, had astrological correspondences. By this means, the Enochian L corresponded to Cancer and I to Sagittarius. They were thus treated as cognate to Cheth and Samekh, respectively.

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            • M Metzareph

              93,
              While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
              In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
              Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
              Thanks!

              93s

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              Red Eagle of Death
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              @Jim Eshelman said

              "In this context, this is an Enochian name, not Hebrew. Crowley used a means (that he had learned in the GD) of equating the Enochian alphabet to geomantic figures which, in turn, had astrological correspondences. By this means, the Enochian L corresponded to Cancer and I to Sagittarius. They were thus treated as cognate to Cheth and Samekh, respectively."

              ...on the grounds that Ur = Populus & Gon = Acquisitio? What are the rest of the attributions of Enochian characters to Geomanic figures?

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              • M Metzareph

                93,
                While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
                In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
                Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
                Thanks!

                93s

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                Jim Eshelman
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                These are given in many places. Here is an excerpt from the table in Black Pearl No. 1. (Enochian letters vs. astrological correspondence.)

                A - Venus by night - Taurus
                B - mars by day - Aries
                C, K - Fire
                D - Spirit
                E - Mercury by night - Virgo
                F - Cauda Draconis
                G - Sun in N. Declination - Leo
                H - Air
                I, Y - Jupiter by Day - Sagittarius
                L - Moon Waning - Cancer
                M - Saturn by Day - Aquarius
                N - Mars by Night - Scorpio
                O - Venus by Day - Libra
                P - Moon Waxing - Cancer
                Q - Water
                R - Jupiter by Night - Pisces
                S - Mercury by Day - Gemini
                T - Cauda Draconis
                U, V - Saturn by Night - Capricorn
                X - Earth
                Z - Sun in South Declination - Leo

                This whole thing is worked out, inch by inch, in a continuing series over five years worth of Black Pearls.

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                • M Metzareph

                  93,
                  While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
                  In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
                  Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
                  Thanks!

                  93s

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                  Metzareph
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                  Have you noticed the phallic (dare to say "Beast like") sigil of the two moons of Cancer holding that Lance of Sag? (moon-lance-moon, Cancer-Sag-Cancer)

                  😉

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                  • M Metzareph

                    93,
                    While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
                    In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
                    Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
                    Thanks!

                    93s

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                    gmugmble
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                    @Jim Eshelman said

                    "some earlier Tarot decks showed The Fool as a toddler."
                    Really? I thought the earliest decks showed The Fool as an old man.

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                    • M Metzareph

                      93,
                      While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
                      In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
                      Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
                      Thanks!

                      93s

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      @gmugmble said

                      "
                      @Jim Eshelman said
                      "some earlier Tarot decks showed The Fool as a toddler."

                      Really? I thought the earliest decks showed The Fool as an old man."

                      I didn't say earliest. I said "some earlier."

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                      • M Metzareph

                        93,
                        While reading the last Aethyr (or first) LIL, I noticed that there is an enumeration of 70 and 66. It is therefore Lamed, Yod, Lamed=70. That's fine, but the use of L as Luna is a little obscure to me, because the Enochian is supposed to be the Zodiac and the elements, not planets.
                        In any case, it is Luna, Sagitarius, Luna=Gimel, Samekh, Gimel=70 or the EYE, Ayin.
                        Can somebody explain why L is Luna?
                        Thanks!

                        93s

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                        Metzareph
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                        #13

                        "
                        Do you say it is "Beast Like" because of the resemblance of "616"?"

                        I say it is "Beast like" because it is very similar to the principle of the Mark of the Beast, with the crescent moons and sun. In this case the phallus is the arrow or lance with the two moons on each side.
                        For this reason, I think there is a strong connection with the phallus on the Devil thoth card. It resonates with the symbology of the "Eye" as well.

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