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  • Z zeph

    A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

    There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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    Tikun Olam
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    Right, so I've got a question about performing Resh at specific times. Let's just assume for the moment that one doesn't wake up at 6:00 in the morning to get up with the sunrise. In fact, let's assume that one were to wake up, instead, around noonish. Which one would you do? The sunrise/first thing in the morning one or the noon one? 😄

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    • Z zeph

      A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

      There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      Noon at noon. 😄

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      • Z zeph

        A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

        There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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        Tikun Olam
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        That's pretty much what I figured, but I just wanted to double check. Thanks! 😄

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        • Z zeph

          A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

          There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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          DavidH
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          I just read something about Resh and solar tides. Any merit to this? It says:

          "All you need to do is find the exact moment of sunrise which should be listed in your daily papers. Then, realize that tides run approximately every two hours from sunrise to sunrise. The first tide following the exact moment of the sun's rays on the horizon will always be air, the second fire, third water and the final tide is earth. Knowing this it is easy to make a schedule." From Red Flame

          Does this mean that, for example, today's sunrise is: 6:26am so the "AIR TIDE" will be from 6:26 to 8:26am and thus the first adoration to RA in the East should be between those times?

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          • Z zeph

            A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

            There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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            Jim Eshelman
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            No, this is a discussion of Tattwas.

            From the moment of sunrise, there is a two-hour cycle running throughout the day repeatedly during which the five Tattwas - in the sequence Spirit, Air, Fire, Water, Earth - recycle. One-fifth of 120 minutes is 24 minutes, so each Tattwa takes 24 minutes. (There are also local variations much as there are micro-climates in the weather - I know of one area of LA where the tides start about two minutes later. Very intense astral-sensitive ritual work over many months in an area would make this evident.)

            This has nothing to do with the timing for Resh.

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            • Z zeph

              A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

              There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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              Maybe I misunderstood. I thought the author was saying that although not necessary, the adorations are stronger if done at the appropriate tide, such as fire for South, Air for East, etc. So I should not be concerned at all with this while doing Resh?

              www.redflame93.com/Resh1.html

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              • Z zeph

                A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

                There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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                Jim Eshelman
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                @Jim Eshelman said

                "This has nothing to do with the timing for Resh."

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                • Z zeph

                  A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

                  There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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                  DavidH
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                  Got it Jim, thanks.

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                  • Z zeph

                    A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

                    There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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                    I thought this related to Resh:

                    "Recent research at the University of Miami indicates that religious people tend to score higher in the exercise of willpower. It seems that the regular act of prayer or meditation gives the brain a sort of anaerobic workout in self-control. It may not be the content of the prayer or even the particular deity involved that tunes people up. Apparently it's the regularity of the act and the committed repetition. A good example is the Muslim ritual of facing Mecca and kneeling on a prayer rug five times a day. Reading a different encyclopedia article at proscribed intervals might do the trick for some folks. For many of us, it means the formalized and regular act of entering the cathedral of our studios and rebooting ourselves at the altar of our easels."

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                    • Z zeph

                      A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

                      There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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                      Oliver P
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                      @Tamara_Tornad said

                      "I thought this related to Resh:

                      "Recent research at the University of Miami indicates that religious people tend to score higher in the exercise of willpower. It seems that the regular act of prayer or meditation gives the brain a sort of anaerobic workout in self-control. ...

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                      That's the way I've always thought of Resh; the sunrise ritual is a good mental refresher and attuner * for the beginning of the day. I'm lucky enough to have a big Eastward-facing window in my apartment, so I can do it reasonably loudly and with the fullest of attention, particularly as no-one else tends to be up at the time.

                      With the others, I often have to resort to the "look away and mumble" version.

                      This leads to another question; when rituals involve direction (often clearly sun-inspired), how does one work in the Southern Hemisphere? I find it makes sense to consider North as the quarter of Fire and South as Earth; or is it more "correct" to perform any rituals as written (usually for the Northern Hemisphere)?

                      Other than facing the "right" direction as far as possible when performing Resh, I haven't really done anything by way of rituals that raise this question since I "came South", but I feel this might be an appropriate time to ask, before I do.

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                      • Z zeph

                        A couple of people have asked me of late about the time to perform Resh. The first thing to note is that noon is rarely at 12p, just as sunrise is rarely at 6p. If it is, it's a fluke. Remember that when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset. It is, not surprisingly, equichronic between those two times.

                        There is no better online resource for determining the solar quarters than the USNO's page: aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html. Looking at today in Santa Monica, we see that sunrise is at 632a, transit is at 1140a, and sunset is at 447p. Note that the transit signifies noon both Sol at zenith as well as nadir, twelve hours later. Compare this to the same event on the other side of the state, in Needles: Sunrise is 13 minutes earlier, the transit is 16m earlier, and sunset is 17 minutes earlier. Same timezone, different longitude.

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                        @Oliver P said

                        "This leads to another question; when rituals involve direction (often clearly sun-inspired), how does one work in the Southern Hemisphere? I find it makes sense to consider North as the quarter of Fire and South as Earth; or is it more "correct" to perform any rituals as written (usually for the Northern Hemisphere)?"

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                        I would say it depends on the ritual. If the rite in question is Resh, then the directions written in the liber certainly are based on the course of the Sun as it appears from the Northern Hemisphere.

                        Noon Resh should be at the true "Mid-course of the Sun", i.e. midway through the path of the ecliptic between the horizons. As mentioned elsewhere this is rarely at noon, and will place the Sun to the south in the northern hemisphere and to the north in the southern hemisphere.

                        So noon Resh in New Zealand would still Fire and Ahathoor, but to the North instead of the South.

                        For other rituals (especially macrocosmic ones), the distinction between tropical and sidereal astrology will largely determine the nature of any difficulty. But my understanding is that latitude is more likely to change the timing of a ritual than it's format.

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