Resh times
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@zeph said
"when we're talking about noon, what we mean is that Sol is at zenith, the highest point in the sky, the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset."
Not zenith - rather (in sufficiently northern latitudes), due south.
It is due south that is "the peak of the arc between sunrise and sunset." This is only the zenith (highest point of its orbit) twice a year.
But your point about calculation is right!
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The longitude which is the highest in the sky at any given time is the zodiacal square (90 degrees of longitude) from the Ascendant. This is almost never the same degree as the Midheaven, which is the most southern.
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(I didn't think I need to start a new thread just to ask a resh-related question, so I used this one.)
At noon (especially), how am I supposed to find a spot to speak loudly an adoration?
Is "loudly" an option? (probably not, right?)
The only thing I can imagine is looking like nutcase in the bathroom stall and I doubt that's the proper place for an adoration, anyway!
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@Redd Fezz said
"At noon (especially), how am I supposed to find a spot to speak loudly an adoration?"
It's a test of ingenuity and life style!
"Is "loudly" an option? (probably not, right?)"
Totally an option. Grady wrote of a time he and Crowley were on a crowded London bus, AC politely excused himself for a moment, seemed to just look away for a bit, then continued the conversation. He had just done Resh.
"The only thing I can imagine is looking like nutcase in the bathroom stall and I doubt that's the proper place for an adoration, anyway!"
Only if you banish first!
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"*I got the idea that winning the Victoria Cross was a high recommendation for retiring as a doorman for a posh London hotel, but then it was war - time England. Crowley was wearing a knickered tweed suit he had specially ordered and tailored and was so proud of... he loved to show you how efficient it was... all those little pockets and things. It came complete with gravy stains, which can still be seen in photos as late as ’45 e.v. from Hastings. Very important in shortage plagued war - time England, but it was very unusual looking.
Anyway, as we were walking into the lobby, I was walking on the right, a rather beefy looking Englishman coming out of the Restaurant took one look at him and burst into laughter. I flushed and half turned to my left with something in mind about doing something about it (“You can’t laugh at my prophet that way!”), but then I noticed that Crowley was laughing and talking and paying it no never-mind, and I suddenly flashed that it would make a rather silly headline the next day — “BERSERK AMERICAN OFFICER ASSAULTS PEACEFUL BRITISH CITIZEN AT POSH HOTEL!” — so I simmered down and we walked on into the dining room.
The reason this incident sticks in my mind is because of something that happened on the way. We had taken one of those big red double - decker buses and were sitting on the bottom level on the left about half-way. We were sitting there talking, when suddenly Crowley glanced up to the left, said “Pardon me a moment,” closed his eyes, made some mystic passes with the fingers of his right hand, and mumbled something unintelligible. Unintelligible to me, anyway. It wasn’t until later that I figured out that he had been doing the noon Liber Resh. The thing that is so striking is that he was so quiet about it. To hear some people talk you would think that he would have rushed up to the top deck and shouted it “from the housetops” to all of Greater London. There may have been times where he did, but he didn’t do it that day.*
Grady McMurtry"
I included the part about the gravy stained suit because I think it's funny and it also says something about Crowley himself.
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Right, so I've got a question about performing Resh at specific times. Let's just assume for the moment that one doesn't wake up at 6:00 in the morning to get up with the sunrise. In fact, let's assume that one were to wake up, instead, around noonish. Which one would you do? The sunrise/first thing in the morning one or the noon one?
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Noon at noon.
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That's pretty much what I figured, but I just wanted to double check. Thanks!
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I just read something about Resh and solar tides. Any merit to this? It says:
"All you need to do is find the exact moment of sunrise which should be listed in your daily papers. Then, realize that tides run approximately every two hours from sunrise to sunrise. The first tide following the exact moment of the sun's rays on the horizon will always be air, the second fire, third water and the final tide is earth. Knowing this it is easy to make a schedule." From Red Flame
Does this mean that, for example, today's sunrise is: 6:26am so the "AIR TIDE" will be from 6:26 to 8:26am and thus the first adoration to RA in the East should be between those times?
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No, this is a discussion of Tattwas.
From the moment of sunrise, there is a two-hour cycle running throughout the day repeatedly during which the five Tattwas - in the sequence Spirit, Air, Fire, Water, Earth - recycle. One-fifth of 120 minutes is 24 minutes, so each Tattwa takes 24 minutes. (There are also local variations much as there are micro-climates in the weather - I know of one area of LA where the tides start about two minutes later. Very intense astral-sensitive ritual work over many months in an area would make this evident.)
This has nothing to do with the timing for Resh.
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Maybe I misunderstood. I thought the author was saying that although not necessary, the adorations are stronger if done at the appropriate tide, such as fire for South, Air for East, etc. So I should not be concerned at all with this while doing Resh?
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@Jim Eshelman said
"This has nothing to do with the timing for Resh."
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I thought this related to Resh:
"Recent research at the University of Miami indicates that religious people tend to score higher in the exercise of willpower. It seems that the regular act of prayer or meditation gives the brain a sort of anaerobic workout in self-control. It may not be the content of the prayer or even the particular deity involved that tunes people up. Apparently it's the regularity of the act and the committed repetition. A good example is the Muslim ritual of facing Mecca and kneeling on a prayer rug five times a day. Reading a different encyclopedia article at proscribed intervals might do the trick for some folks. For many of us, it means the formalized and regular act of entering the cathedral of our studios and rebooting ourselves at the altar of our easels."
- Rober Genn newsletter.
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@Tamara_Tornad said
"I thought this related to Resh:
"Recent research at the University of Miami indicates that religious people tend to score higher in the exercise of willpower. It seems that the regular act of prayer or meditation gives the brain a sort of anaerobic workout in self-control. ...
- Rober Genn newsletter."
That's the way I've always thought of Resh; the sunrise ritual is a good mental refresher and attuner * for the beginning of the day. I'm lucky enough to have a big Eastward-facing window in my apartment, so I can do it reasonably loudly and with the fullest of attention, particularly as no-one else tends to be up at the time.
With the others, I often have to resort to the "look away and mumble" version.
This leads to another question; when rituals involve direction (often clearly sun-inspired), how does one work in the Southern Hemisphere? I find it makes sense to consider North as the quarter of Fire and South as Earth; or is it more "correct" to perform any rituals as written (usually for the Northern Hemisphere)?
Other than facing the "right" direction as far as possible when performing Resh, I haven't really done anything by way of rituals that raise this question since I "came South", but I feel this might be an appropriate time to ask, before I do.
OP
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@Oliver P said
"This leads to another question; when rituals involve direction (often clearly sun-inspired), how does one work in the Southern Hemisphere? I find it makes sense to consider North as the quarter of Fire and South as Earth; or is it more "correct" to perform any rituals as written (usually for the Northern Hemisphere)?"
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I would say it depends on the ritual. If the rite in question is Resh, then the directions written in the liber certainly are based on the course of the Sun as it appears from the Northern Hemisphere.
Noon Resh should be at the true "Mid-course of the Sun", i.e. midway through the path of the ecliptic between the horizons. As mentioned elsewhere this is rarely at noon, and will place the Sun to the south in the northern hemisphere and to the north in the southern hemisphere.
So noon Resh in New Zealand would still Fire and Ahathoor, but to the North instead of the South.
For other rituals (especially macrocosmic ones), the distinction between tropical and sidereal astrology will largely determine the nature of any difficulty. But my understanding is that latitude is more likely to change the timing of a ritual than it's format.
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I am excited to start the LBRP, MPR and LR! 