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Advice For a dissatisfied Clairvoyant

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    gerry456
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    hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

    he practices and yoga and reiki healing

    he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

    would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

    he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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      hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

      he practices and yoga and reiki healing

      he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

      would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

      he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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      Jim Eshelman
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      Psychic abilities can be honed and refined by training, practice, and discipline.

      In the course of this, sometimes (not always) the native psychic abilities go away for a time, and are brought back later as a consequence of the training.

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        hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

        he practices and yoga and reiki healing

        he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

        would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

        he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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        gerry456
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        @Jim Eshelman said

        "Psychic abilities can be honed and refined by training, practice, and discipline.

        In the course of this, sometimes (not always) the native psychic abilities go away for a time, and are brought back later as a consequence of the training."

        thankyou and as AC said the sidhi are irrelevant to someone's TW or could being a psychic reader be someone's TW? AC despised mediums and psychics who took money for readings right?

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          hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

          he practices and yoga and reiki healing

          he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

          would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

          he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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          Modest
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          Right. Me too re money.

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            hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

            he practices and yoga and reiki healing

            he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

            would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

            he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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            gerry456
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            @Jim Eshelman said

            "Psychic abilities can be honed and refined by training, practice, and discipline.

            In the course of this, sometimes (not always) the native psychic abilities go away for a time, and are brought back later as a consequence of the training."

            someone taught him how to skry but he didnt have any results

            what is the significance of that?

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              hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

              he practices and yoga and reiki healing

              he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

              would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

              he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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              Jim Eshelman
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              Then they didn't really teach him, right?

              And there's a lot of personal training that should come before that.

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                hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

                he practices and yoga and reiki healing

                he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

                would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

                he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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                gerry456
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                @Jim Eshelman said

                "Then they didn't really teach him, right?

                And there's a lot of personal training that should come before that."

                "taught" is the wrong phrase sorry let me elucidate he was being TESTED scientifically by professionals

                he couldnt skry after staring into this specially made crystal glass and so they ticked an X in the sky-ability box

                another point about him I was describing the grade Signs of the elements in the GRP and he recognised them (not because he studied magick) as he has *instinctively *been doing these signs in their logical sequence when he does long yoga sessions lying on the floor (including closing down the Veils after he has finished). Is it possible therefore that he has "mastered the elements"? He is near becoming a reiki specailist. he has 2 inner guides which he consults and he has visualized their form.

                anyway i digress I also asked him what he wants and he wants success as a clairvoyant reader (as a business). Maybe that is his TW. Another magickian on a forum said he needs to work with Gods. I was going to suggest he banishes a circle and invokes/placates Mercury or Jupiter and charges a relevant talisman with said god-energy (for clairvoyant reading business success) as this would give him an introduction into the ceremonial path. What do you think?

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                  hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

                  he practices and yoga and reiki healing

                  he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

                  would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

                  he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  This is all piecemeal. "Try this trick, try this other technique."

                  And, for his commercial purposes, maybe that's good enough. I don't know and, frankly, I don't care, because I don't run a trade school.

                  But if he wanted spiritual growth from which deeper spiritual perceptions would naturally rise, then any piecemeal approach is crap.

                  Here is the principle of consciousness I can tell you that will be, perhaps, or most use to him: (1) If you want to develop super-powers, such as clairvoyance, you can do that - but all spiritual growth will be locked at that level, usually for the remainder of the incarnation. (2) However, if the goal is spiritual growth, then, while progressing in that, the super-powers come on their own - ironically this will usually be the point that one no longer has much interest in them 👿

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                    hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

                    he practices and yoga and reiki healing

                    he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

                    would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

                    he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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                    gerry456
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                    in other words this guy is not doing his TW?

                    thanks Jim

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                      hello i knoe a clairvoyant who seems to have significant ability but he seems to want answers ie the psychical abilities are not enough

                      he practices and yoga and reiki healing

                      he has the odd occassion where by will he has "made things happen". Anyway I was thinking of Learys 8 circuit model re circuit 6 where the next step from ESP is to become a neurologician ie a magickian and i assumem this is his next big step

                      would it be advisable for this guy to explore magick and rituals? Would he easily be able to summon entities etc?

                      he onluy sees the dead here and there now and recieves messages from the astral

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      @gerry456 said

                      "in other words this guy is not doing his TW?"

                      I'm avoiding answering this question or in any sense talking about True Will on this topic. Among other reasons, there just isn't enough information yet to know about that.

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