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True Will and physical obstacles

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  • A Amdis Spica

    I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

    I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

    Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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    Tinman
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    "Crowley hated the Theosophists"

    Did he?

    I was under the impression that while he didn't like the whole Krishnamurti thing that they tried to advertise (seeing it as competing business?), he did have some respect for Blavatsky (one of the founders). Also, didn't he attribute some importance to his being born in the year that the Theosophical Society was founded (1875); I fail to see how this would be that significant if he strictly looked down on the Theosophists.

    I don't have enough documented examples of Crowley talking about the Theosophists to get a clear picture of his thoughts - if you have any examples, I would appreciate it.

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    • A Amdis Spica

      I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

      I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

      Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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      Avshalom Binyamin
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      Here you go

      😀

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      • A Amdis Spica

        I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

        I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

        Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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        Tinman
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        hehe.... I guess I meant - do you have any examples of quotes to support the case that Crowley hated the Theosophists - not, do you know how to use google (But thanks AvshalomBinyamin anyway - a useful example none the less).

        The first quote I found from the link was this:

        ""She, and she alone, made Theosophy possible, and without Theosophy the world-wide interest in similar matters would never have been aroused. This interest is to the Law of Thelema what the preaching of John the Baptist was to Christianity." - Book 4, Part 1"

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        • A Amdis Spica

          I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

          I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

          Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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          Avshalom Binyamin
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          I know, I was just giving you a hard time. 😉

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          • A Amdis Spica

            I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

            I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

            Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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            Mephisto
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            @Tinman said

            "hehe.... I guess I meant - do you have any examples of quotes to support the case that Crowley hated the Theosophists - not, do you know how to use google (But thanks AvshalomBinyamin anyway - a useful example none the less).

            The first quote I found from the link was this:

            ""She, and she alone, made Theosophy possible, and without Theosophy the world-wide interest in similar matters would never have been aroused. This interest is to the Law of Thelema what the preaching of John the Baptist was to Christianity." - Book 4, Part 1"
            "

            Ah, forgive me! I was thinking of Mary Baker Eddy, and Christian Science. I knew not what I wrote.

            Thanks for demanding evidence. You are a living testament to the uses of Scientific Illuminism!

            blush

            Kids, this is why you stay in school.

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            • A Amdis Spica

              I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

              I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

              Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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              Tinman
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              I only asked because I wasn't so sure myself. I'm still not sure.

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              • A Amdis Spica

                I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

                I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

                Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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                Mephisto
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                @Tinman said

                "I only asked because I wasn't so sure myself. I'm still not sure."

                I was going from some statement or other of H. Beta's, about Crowley's dislike of the "Toshosophists."

                I tied this together with his words on Eddy, and came to an untenable conclusion. It seems, on reflection, that Crowley could take a critical stance on just about anything. On the whole, he would appear to view Theosophy as a positive thing.

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                • A Amdis Spica

                  I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

                  I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

                  Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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                  Tinman
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                  Some days you feel like a nut... some days you don't

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                  • A Amdis Spica

                    I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

                    I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

                    Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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                    Mephisto
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                    @Tinman said

                    "Some days you feel like a nut... some days you don't"

                    Other days you feel like an inverted bicycle covered in silly putty. 😀

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                    • A Amdis Spica

                      I've been musing much lately on the physical obstacles to True Will. What do those here think of those physical obstacles in their life if they in opposition to your True Will?

                      I am not referring to obstacles which are productive, I am referring to those which are fruitless, and yes there are obstacles which are fruitless, whether or not we are the cause of them.

                      Also, when I say physical obstacles I mean any that relate to physicality however else they exist.

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      Are we done with the original topic? Hmm?

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