Black Matter
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93,
A misconception in Teth seeems more likely, though I could be wrong.
Tell me, then, how you figure it a blunder? Black matter, that is? -
@Alrah said
"It's hypothetical. And it's matter. Show me a new detector that can show any level on the tree independant of Malkuth and I'll get excited. Otherwise..."
No kidding. Not sure I can imagine how one could measure anything at all, except via Malkuth.
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
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@Alrah said
"It's hypothetical. And it's matter. Show me a new detector that can show any level on the tree independant of Malkuth and I'll get excited. Otherwise..."No kidding. Not sure I can imagine how one could measure anything at all, except via Malkuth."
Well... let's not confuse Malkuth with Assiah.
A white hole is in Assiah, but not a symbol of Malkuth. It's Kether in Assiah. Similarly, the planet Saturn is Binah in Assiah (in comparison to a Saturnian psychological state which is Binah in Yetzirah, or an illuminated relationship to Neshamah which is Binah in Briah, etc.).
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Ah yes.
Speaking of mapping the 4 worlds to the tree, what do you think of the pattern of overlapping circles, like at the top of this page?
www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/qbl/4worlds.html
(or do you prefer to think of each world having it's own tree, since you mention Kether in Assiah?)
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Speaking of mapping the 4 worlds to the tree, what do you think of the pattern of overlapping circles, like at the top of this page?
www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/qbl/4worlds.html
(or do you prefer to think of each world having it's own tree, since you mention Kether in Assiah?)"
Indulging in a brief digression before returning to the main topic...
The root idea, regardless of anything else you do with it, is that the entire Tree exists in each of the Four Worlds. That's basic Qabalah. (It's not a matter of preference. It's the basic definition of the whole model!)
From that, people come up with a variety of custom views - basically, ways of displaying multi-dimensional diagrams in two dimensions - that can display different parts of the Tree as existing in one or another of the worlds. This is just a specialized display of data to serve a specific purpose.
But, outside of any particular purpose, we should never forget the root idea: That, regardless of anything else you do with it, the entire Tree exists in each of the Four Worlds.
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Ah yes.
Speaking of mapping the 4 worlds to the tree, what do you think of the pattern of overlapping circles, like at the top of this page?
www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/qbl/4worlds.html
(or do you prefer to think of each world having it's own tree, since you mention Kether in Assiah?)"
I'm partial to the Great Tree arrangement in which the Tiphareth of the Olam 'above' aligns with the Kether of the Olam 'below'. Similarly, Chokmah & Binah align with Netzach & Hod, Yesod with Da'ath, & Chesed & Geburah with Malkuth. This arrangement continues from Atziluth to Assiyah.
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I had forgotten about that one. Yes, it kind of marries the two concepts.
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@Arsihsis said
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@AvshalomBinyamin said
"Ah yes.Speaking of mapping the 4 worlds to the tree, what do you think of the pattern of overlapping circles, like at the top of this page?
www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/qbl/4worlds.html
(or do you prefer to think of each world having it's own tree, since you mention Kether in Assiah?)"
I'm partial to the Great Tree arrangement in which the Tiphareth of the Olam 'above' aligns with the Kether of the Olam 'below'. Similarly, Chokmah & Binah align with Netzach & Hod, Yesod with Da'ath, & Chesed & Geburah with Malkuth. This arrangement continues from Atziluth to Assiyah.
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Again (to try to wrap up this brief digression before returning to the original subject), any of these are fine as long as it is understand that they are subsets of the fundamental truth - that the entire Tree exists in all Four Worlds - and as long as they are recognized as being special-purpose display methods.
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I was unaware that anything was instrumentally measurable outside of the Malkuth region. Last I checked, the hypothesis of ether still stands with many scientists, yet we still cannot measure, contain, or in any other way prove such a material. It comes down to a matter of just what you can wrap your mind around. If you can't think outside the box, then you cannot answer on what's out there. Not to mention no one has yet to provide any standing basis as to why Black Matter could not possibly exists.
From wikipedia(with references):
" In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter that is undetectable by its emitted electromagnetic radiation, but whose presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter.[1] According to present observations of structures larger than galaxies, as well as Big Bang cosmology, dark matter and dark energy could account for the vast majority of the mass in the observable universe."
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" Direct detection experiments
Direct detection experiments operate in deep underground laboratories to reduce the background from cosmic rays. These include: the Soudan mine; the SNOLAB underground laboratory at Sudbury, Ontario (Canada); the Gran Sasso National Laboratory (Italy); the Boulby Underground Laboratory (UK); and the Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory, South Dakota.
The majority of present experiments use one of two detector technologies: cryogenic detectors, operating at temperatures below 100mK, detect the heat produced when a particle hits an atom in a crystal absorber such as germanium. Noble liquid detectors detect the flash of scintillation light produced by a particle collision in liquid xenon or argon. Cryogenic detector experiments include: the Cryogenic Dark Matter Search (CDMS), CRESST, EDELWEISS, and EURECA. Noble liquid experiments include ZEPLIN, XENON, ArDM and LUX. Both of these detectors are capable of distinguishing background particles which scatter off electrons, from dark matter particles which scatter off nuclei.
The DAMA/NaI, DAMA/LIBRA experiments have detected an annual modulation in the event rate, which they claim is due to dark matter particles. (As the Earth orbits the Sun, the velocity of the detector relative to the dark matter halo will vary by a small amount depending on the time of year). This claim is so far unconfirmed and difficult to reconcile with the negative results of other experiments assuming that the WIMP scenario is correct.[51]
Other direct dark matter experiments include DRIFT, MIMAC, PICASSO, and the DMTPC.
On 17 December 2009 CDMS researchers reported two possible WIMP candidate events. They estimate that the probability that these events are due to a known background (neutrons or misidentified beta or gamma events) is 23%, and conclude "this analysis cannot be interpreted as significant evidence for WIMP interactions, but we cannot reject either event as signal."[52]
[edit] Indirect detection experimentsIndirect detection experiments search for the products of WIMP annihilation. If WIMPs are majorana particles (the particle and antiparticle are the same) then two WIMPs colliding would annihilate to produce gamma rays, and particle-antiparticle pairs. This could produce a significant number of gamma rays, antiprotons or positrons in the galactic halo. The detection of such a signal is not conclusive evidence for dark matter, as the backgrounds from other sources are not fully understood.[4][48]
The EGRET gamma ray telescope observed an excess of gamma rays, but scientists concluded that this was most likely a systematic effect.[53] The Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, launched June 11, 2008, is searching for gamma rays events from dark matter annihilation.[54]
The PAMELA payload (launched 2006) has detected an excess of positrons, which could be produced by dark matter annihilation, but may also come from pulsars. No excess of anti-protons has been observed.[55]
WIMPs passing through the Sun or Earth are likely to scatter off atoms and lose energy. This way a large population of WIMPs may accumulate at the center of these bodies, increasing the chance that two will collide and annihilate. This could produce a distinctive signal in the form of high energy neutrinos originating from the center of the Sun or Earth. It is generally considered that the detection of such a signal would be the strongest indirect proof of WIMP dark matter.[4] High energy neutrino telescopes such as AMANDA, IceCube and ANTARES are searching for this."
Just to throw some stuff out there. Does anyone have any relevant comments? Other than, "I don't believe that," "it's not true," or "that's impossible." Just to make it clear, I'm asking whys, not opinions here. Intelligent opinions would be the exception.
Aside from that, my original question was if anyone had thought if, should BM exist, its place in the Qabbalah qould be?
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@FiliusBestia said
"I was unaware that anything was instrumentally measurable outside of the Malkuth region."
That's a common mistake. That view confuses Malkuth with the World of Assiah. (What you say would, in the sense that I think you meant it, be true of the World of Assiah.) The whole Tree exists in each of the four worlds.
Thus, for example, Binah exists in Assiah as the physical planet Saturn.
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93, Yes, you are right, I believe, Jim. I'm still learning the Worlds. I learned the Etz ha-Chayyim before I learned the Worlds.... Still, I'm pretty sure my point was clear enough. I'll shut up before I go off topic. Lol. Thanks.