Questions on the Lesser Hexagram
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
@he atlas itch said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Furthermore - as I explain elsewhere - A.R.A.R.I.T.A. is a blind. The entire sentence (of which it is the abbreviation) should be used. This makes it even less likely that the "one burst, rip it out" style would work. A sonorous chant while touching the implement to the center of the hexagram works splendidly."Can you write a phonetic rendition of how Achad Rosh Achdotho Rosh Ichudo Temu-rahzo Achad should be pronounced with accents indicated?"
I can approximate how it would be pronounced in spoken Hebrew. It is:
Echad,
rosh ache’dutho,
rosh yichudutho,
t’muratho echadwhere ch is a Cheth (close to "school" instead of "church), and the vowels are: e as in "bed," a as in "father," i as in "fig," o as in "show." The accent is on the last syllable in each case (for the words used here). The apostrophe is meant to be a schwa, and it's brief, unaccented nature is probably intuitively obvious in the rendering above.
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
Thank you for that explanation Jim.
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
could you post the correct hebrew phrase's replacing the notorikons(abbreviations, dont know how to spell the notor whatever word) for the lesser pentagram ritual?
also, in the rosy cross, atah and malkuth, they arent blinds like in the pentagram ritual right? or no?
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
@Alias55A said
"could you post the correct hebrew phrase's replacing the notorikons(abbreviations, dont know how to spell the notor whatever word) for the lesser pentagram ritual?"
Atoh Gibor Le'Olam Adonai (AGLA) is the only notariquon used in LBRP.
...perhaps this little excursion of topic warrants a new thread?
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
@Alias55A said
"could you post the correct hebrew phrase's replacing the notorikons(abbreviations, dont know how to spell the notor whatever word) for the lesser pentagram ritual?"
Do you want the Hebrew spelling, or the Hebrew pronunciation.
For the Hexagram Ritual, the phrase was given just above:
Echad,
rosh ache’dutho,
rosh yichudutho,
t’muratho echadThat is: AChD RASh AChDVThV RASh YChVDVThV ThMVRThV AChD.
For the Pentagram Ritual, it is:
AThH GBVR LOVLM ADNI, Attah gibbor le-olam, Adonai."also, in the rosy cross, atah and malkuth, they arent blinds like in the pentagram ritual right? or no?"
I don't understand the question. In the Rosy Cross ritual, the only words recited (besides the Analysis of the Key-Word if included at the end) are Yeheshua and Yehovasha.
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
-
Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
93,
lol, sorry my mistake, i assumed there was more then one blind in the LBRP.
" also, in the rosy cross, atah and malkuth, they arent blinds like in the pentagram ritual right? or no?
I don't understand the question. In the Rosy Cross ritual, the only words recited (besides the Analysis of the Key-Word if included at the end) are Yeheshua and Yehovasha."
no, i just wanted to know if any of the recited words were blinds like AGLA and ARARYTA.
Analysis of the Key-Word at the end? Yeheshua and Yehovasha? please explain.
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
-
Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
@Alias55A said
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"also, in the rosy cross, atah and malkuth, they arent blinds like in the pentagram ritual right? or no?I don't understand the question. In the Rosy Cross ritual, the only words recited (besides the Analysis of the Key-Word if included at the end) are Yeheshua and Yehovasha."
no, i just wanted to know if any of the recited words were blinds like AGLA and ARARYTA.
Analysis of the Key-Word at the end? Yeheshua and Yehovasha? please explain.
"You asked about the Rose Cross ritual. That ritual has you reciting Yeheshua eight times and Yehovasha once, and ends with the Analysis of the Key-Word. There are no other words in that ritual.
I'm wondering if you meant something else in your question about the Rose Cross ritual? Otherwise, it's really really hard to miss the reference to those words.
PS - I think I just figured out what you were saying. You said "In the Rosy Cross" when you meant "in the Qabalistic Cross." Is that right? (In that case, forget everything I said about the Rosy Cross ritual.)
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
-
Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
-
Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
"PS - I think I just figured out what you were saying. You said "In the Rosy Cross" when you meant "in the Qabalistic Cross." Is that right? (In that case, forget everything I said about the Rosy Cross ritual.)"
LMAO, sorry about the brain fart, ya i meant the Qabalistic Cross, not the Rosy Cross
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So I originally learned, back when I was a youngin, from Kraig's Modern Magick. Then, after reading a lot of other things, I stuck with that, because various ritual rubrics for this ritual always seem incomplete. Now I have seen tons of versions with various differences. Which is best and why?
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Liber O has no "let the divine light descend" and changes the order of the Analysis of the Keyword.
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Should the Analysis of the Keyword be vibrated? Should the letters in Hebrew be traced in the air? None of this is in Liber O, but is in other places.
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Should one use the Sign of the Enterer when vibrating ARARITA, vibrate it while tracing the hexagram, or vibrate it after while stabbing the center of the hexagram?
And a general question on the Sign of Silence: I was taught that it was the necessary compliment to all extensions of energy, in order to cut the current. I honestly don't see it in many places at all, so what's the deal with it?
i did my first hexagam ritual the other night and second pentagram one . i think its funny that a poor beginner like me didnt even know aout the abbreviations being abbreviations.
the funny thing is although I pronounced AGLA like agla and not Atoh Gibor Le'Olam Adonai at the end of the rituals i still felt very energised and energy was vibrating through my whole body as i lie down. it was quite nice.
i guess it goes to show that magic works even when you do it 'wrong' but i would like to know if there are any other blinds in crowleys rituals its quite annoying. one thinks maybe you could get even better results with the 'proper' vibrating of names.
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