The Invocation of Horus.

monkman93

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@Jim Eshelman said
"She mercilessly edited it."

In a good way or a bad way?"

To a terrible result. Crowley wrote The Law, the world was consumed in flames, and occultists have been trying to figure out what the damn thing means ever since...

monkman93

Not sure on all of the actual changes she made. But for instance, she demanded that Crowley omit preliminary banishings, invocations, and that kind of thing. Can anyone else think of any other clear examples of Rose's infernal meddling?

PatchworkSerpent

@Jim Eshelman said

"B. (Except she didn't dictate it. She mercilessly edited it.)"

Could you expand on this? I find no reference to it in The Equinox of the Gods, and haven't heard of it before. How do we know this?

Or is the something for a new topic?

Jim Eshelman

The discussion of it is right there in Equinox of the Gods, I think. Probably in Confessions, too.

PatchworkSerpent

@Jim Eshelman said

"The discussion of it is right there in Equinox of the Gods, I think. Probably in Confessions, too."

I've looked at the exact places in both texts where the Supreme Ritual is discussed, and neither mention anything about Ouarda 'editing' anything. It is only mentioned that it is revealed to or dictated by her.
What do you mean by 'edited it mercilessly'? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

Heru418

@PatchworkSerpen said

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@Jim Eshelman said
"The discussion of it is right there in Equinox of the Gods, I think. Probably in Confessions, too."

I've looked at the exact places in both texts where the Supreme Ritual is discussed, and neither mention anything about Ouarda 'editing' anything. It is only mentioned that it is revealed to or dictated by her.
What do you mean by 'edited it mercilessly'? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you."

I have the New Falcon Edition of The EOTG, and at the top of page 71 is says ""The revealing of the Ritual (by W. the Seer) consisted chiefly in a prohibition of all formulae hitherto used, as will be seen from the text written below."

And on page 77 there is a section entitled "INVOCATION OF HORUS ACCORDING TO THE DIVINE VISION OF W., THE SEER. To be performed before a window open to the E. or N. without incense. The room to be filled with jewels, but only diamonds to be worn. A sword, unconsecrated, 44 pearl beads to be told. Stand. Bright daylight at 12:30 noon. Lock doors. White robes. Bare feet. Be very loud. Saturday. Use the sign of Apophis and Typhon. The above is W.'s answer to various questions posed by P. Preliminary. Banish. L.B.R. Pentagram L.B.R. Hexagram. Flaming Sword. Abrahadabra, Invoke. As before (These are P.'s ideas for the ritual. W. replied, "Omit")"

I hope this helps.

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Jim Eshelman

Yes, that's exactly right.

PatchworkSerpent

@Heru418 said

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@PatchworkSerpen said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"The discussion of it is right there in Equinox of the Gods, I think. Probably in Confessions, too."

I've looked at the exact places in both texts where the Supreme Ritual is discussed, and neither mention anything about Ouarda 'editing' anything. It is only mentioned that it is revealed to or dictated by her.
What do you mean by 'edited it mercilessly'? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you."

I have the New Falcon Edition of The EOTG, and at the top of page 71 is says ""The revealing of the Ritual (by W. the Seer) consisted chiefly in a prohibition of all formulae hitherto used, as will be seen from the text written below."

And on page 77 there is a section entitled "INVOCATION OF HORUS ACCORDING TO THE DIVINE VISION OF W., THE SEER. To be performed before a window open to the E. or N. without incense. The room to be filled with jewels, but only diamonds to be worn. A sword, unconsecrated, 44 pearl beads to be told. Stand. Bright daylight at 12:30 noon. Lock doors. White robes. Bare feet. Be very loud. Saturday. Use the sign of Apophis and Typhon. The above is W.'s answer to various questions posed by P. Preliminary. Banish. L.B.R. Pentagram L.B.R. Hexagram. Flaming Sword. Abrahadabra, Invoke. As before (These are P.'s ideas for the ritual. W. replied, "Omit")"

I hope this helps.

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A L P"

I see. But how does this qualify as editing? I always assumed W.'s comments and corrections were not her own, but rather intentionally channeled and dictated through her - part of the original message itself.

PatchworkSerpent

@Jim Eshelman said

"Yes, that's exactly right."

Hold on, are you saying that the Invocation of Horus received in Cairo was a new version/edit of the Bornless Ritual? That would explain my misunderstanding.

Heru418

ed·it (dt)
1.
a. To prepare (written material) for publication or presentation, as by correcting, revising, or adapting.
b. To prepare an edition of for publication: edit a collection of short stories.
c. To modify or adapt so as to make suitable or acceptable: edited her remarks for presentation to a younger audience.
2. To supervise the publication of (a newspaper or magazine, for example).
3. To assemble the components of (a film or soundtrack, for example), as by cutting and splicing.
4. To eliminate; delete: edited the best scene out.

Jim Eshelman

@PatchworkSerpen said

"I see. But how does this qualify as editing?"

Edit (definition 1c from American Heritage): "To modify or adapt so as to make suitable or acceptable." (definition 4): "To eliminate; delete."

"I always assumed W.'s comments and corrections were not her own, but rather intentionally channeled and dictated through her - part of the original message itself."

These are her modifications of the ritual that led to the whole affair - not her corrections to Liber Legis three weeks later. I'd like to think you're right that she was under guidance, but all we really know is that she read the ritual Crowley wrote and made changes.

PatchworkSerpent

@Jim Eshelman said

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@PatchworkSerpen said
"I see. But how does this qualify as editing?"

Edit (definition 1c from American Heritage): "To modify or adapt so as to make suitable or acceptable." (definition 4): "To eliminate; delete."

"I always assumed W.'s comments and corrections were not her own, but rather intentionally channeled and dictated through her - part of the original message itself."

These are her modifications of the ritual that led to the whole affair - not her corrections to Liber Legis three weeks later. I'd like to think you're right that she was under guidance, but all we really know is that she read the ritual Crowley wrote and made changes."

I've just reread it and realise my error. I thought the entire ritual was dictated to Crowley by the seer; thus when you said that she 'edited' it, I assumed you meant that once it was dictated, she again edited it further - which caused my confusion. Now I see that it was Crowley's original ritual, which was then added to/edited by Ouarda (whom I think it is safe to say was under guidance, considered her sudden identification of RHK, etc) as per:

"The revealing of the ritual (by W. the seer) consisted chiefly in a prohibition of all formulae hitherto used, as will be seen from the text printed below."

Clearly I understand the definition of a word!

AliceKnewIt

On March 20, the Invocation of Horus (The Supreme Ritual) may be performed to celebrate the anniversary of the Equinox of the Gods.

Here is the ritual:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thomasvoxfire.com/pdf/Supreme Ritual.pdf">www.thomasvoxfire.com/pdf/Supreme Ritual.pdf</a>‎