Zodiacal correspondence/use in ritual:
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@AbUldIZ418 said
"My reasoning is that, I am striving to correctly center my temple w/in the heavens.W/in Crowley's framework this would of course be reversed (i.e., heliocentricly)."
Think of it this way: we don't live on the sun. Use geocentric.
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Thanks for the comment. I know that we dont live there, however, was just speculating whether I should try and visualize the relative position correctly if I was to correctly position my Astral temple in this way.
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As I understand it, Crowley's heliocentric POV only becomes a factor at some higher levels? Always had a vague interest in this: will do some research on the topic. Thanks for provoking me.
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Thanks for the comment. I am using this maybe a bit out of context (however, I think no.) . This is what Crowley wanted for each of us w/out negating the "mundane" &/or relative position of our space in this life. Quoted from :ThIShARB, Liber Viae Memoriae: ("So to enable the Aspirant to calculate his True Orbit in eternity.") Short quote I know. But this is the largest "raison de atair" for me wanting to trully understand this here!
thanks for all.........
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about the Zodiac itself, maybe you would be interested to consider this:
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Holy cazzzzzzzzzoooooooooo!!!
What?? I have done a bit of research here but had no clue this was as is!
Briefly, "The Sidereal zodiac — the same zodiac that was used from astrology’s dawn — exists objectively, has demonstrable empirical and statistical validity, and is the only legitimate zodiac existing in Nature."I should go a good bit further here w/what they are saying w/this, but, I am on a trail here now. Please give me more time for further research for my response/agreement. This does bring up some quite relevant insight to my question..........
Thanks.....
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I should point out that the essay she linked to is an appendix to my new book Visions & Voices, due out in January. The book gives timed horoscopes (in both the Triopical and Sidereal zodiacs) for each of the 33 separate visions Crowley undertook for which date, time, and place were recorded. The conclusion... well, the visions kinda speak for themselves, but... in two-thirds of the cases, the Sidereal Moon sign alone was enough to substantially determine the direction and flow of the visions.
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Sorry for not b/ing frank & open here (i.e., I know that we all deal w/parental/sybling & otherwise projections from many & varied sources). I am currently & have been striving to deal w/me own "Nodes" and Pluto transits for some time and realize the significance on an objective plane; however, I need insight w/in me own realm (i.e., "Subjectively" speaking) & know that Crowley has my answer for dealing w/such. I think that the AbUldIZ working can and has worked wonders already for me in the past few yrs. but 1 has to b/carefull. This isn't all that I work w/but have many visions that I am incapable of dealing w/w/in my own journey @ the present for such.
What do I do???
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@JPF said
"Think of it this way: we don't live on the sun."
"In order to get this mental picture of the ever-shining Sun, what did you do? You identified yourself with the Sun. You stepped out of the consciousness of this planet; and for a moment you had to consider yourself as a Solar Being."
hermetic.com/browe-archive/achad/misc/Stepping%20out%20of%20the%20old%20aeon.htm
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@Arsihsis said
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@JPF said
"Think of it this way: we don't live on the sun.""In order to get this mental picture of the ever-shining Sun, what did you do? You identified yourself with the Sun. You stepped out of the consciousness of this planet; and for a moment you had to consider yourself as a Solar Being."
hermetic.com/browe-archive/achad/misc/Stepping%20out%20of%20the%20old%20aeon.htm
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yes, but there are steps on that road: Man of the Earth ('geocentric' )--> Lover (heliocentric) --> Hermit (astri-centric, starry consciousness, Nuit..)