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  • J Jim Eshelman

    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

    There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

    Here are some of the options:

    1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
    2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
    3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

    If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

    There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

    And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Gemini
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    93-
    i had trouble voting as well.....so i will do so here. i vote to keep mmaa just as it is...masterful!
    however, if it be possible a smaller 6x9 could be nice for on the go, traveling etc. finding i refer to it often. 😀
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    • J Jim Eshelman

      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

      We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

      There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

      Here are some of the options:

      1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
      2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
      3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

      If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

      There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

      And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

      Thanks in advance.

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      Jim Eshelman
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      @Gemini said

      "i had trouble voting as well.....so i will do so here. i vote to keep mmaa just as it is...masterful!
      however, if it be possible a smaller 6x9 could be nice for on the go, traveling etc. finding i refer to it often. 😀 "

      If you had to pick one size or the other (not both), which would it be?

      PS - What browser are you using?

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      • J Jim Eshelman

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

        We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

        There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

        Here are some of the options:

        1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
        2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
        3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

        If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

        There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

        And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

        Thanks in advance.

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        Mike
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        I've been out of the loop of this thread for a little while 😆

        Jim - I'm using Safari. (I'm on a Mac - I don't trust running music software on anything else!) When I try to vote, it just says: "The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again." I tried it with Firefox and it brings me to the results window without letting me vote.

        It's not a big deal from my end, but I was just letting you know it occurred.

        93, 93/93.

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        • J Jim Eshelman

          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

          We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

          There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

          Here are some of the options:

          1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
          2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
          3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

          If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

          There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

          And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

          Thanks in advance.

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          Has anyone running Internet Explorer had trouble voting?

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          • J Jim Eshelman

            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

            We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

            There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

            Here are some of the options:

            1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
            2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
            3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

            If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

            There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

            And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

            Thanks in advance.

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            Bereshith
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            Several books of the larger size stack better in a backpack than several of the smaller, fatter books. fwiw.

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            • J Jim Eshelman

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

              We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

              There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

              Here are some of the options:

              1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
              2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
              3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

              If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

              There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

              And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

              Thanks in advance.

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              Jim Eshelman
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              So far, "reprint it exactly as it is - oversized hardcover" is winning by a huge margin. That's fine with me - way less work! - but if you want it to go a different direction, you should vote.

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              • J Jim Eshelman

                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                Here are some of the options:

                1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                Thanks in advance.

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                Ankh
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                I should have given my reason for voting the way I did earlier but, I didn’t. My apologies. The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. is a serious book that should not be taken lightly. The current large style format is dignified. That is something you can’t put a price on.

                I do have a silly question now that I am thinking about. What was the reasoning for the colour(sky blue?) used for the dust jacket and inside of the covers?

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                • J Jim Eshelman

                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                  We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                  There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                  Here are some of the options:

                  1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                  2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                  3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                  If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                  There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                  And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                  Thanks in advance.

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  @Ankh said

                  "I do have a silly question now that I am thinking about. What was the reasoning for the colour(sky blue?) used for the dust jacket and inside of the covers?"

                  Color of the dust-jacket (as of the original paper cover in the copyshop version) was picked for Gimel.

                  The inside... I looked through various fabrics and thought the dark indigo was dignified and had the side-benefit of being Binah-esque... and then it took the silver stamping spectacularly.

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                  • J Jim Eshelman

                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                    We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                    There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                    Here are some of the options:

                    1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                    2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                    3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                    If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                    There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                    And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                    Thanks in advance.

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                    I'm using IE8 on Win 7 without any issue that I know of.

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                    • J Jim Eshelman

                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                      We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                      There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                      Here are some of the options:

                      1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                      2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                      3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                      If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                      There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                      And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                      Thanks in advance.

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                      Gemini
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                      93!
                      i am using fox fire. i have also checked explorer with the same result, no vote option. voting only for one choice, without question, the format as is. the large format is easy to read, and yes, the binding is really something, it does lay open nice too. there being times when i have needed to have multiple source material out.
                      everyone should have the chance to have a copy just as it has always been. it is a work of art and craft
                      ❗ 😀
                      93!

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                      • J Jim Eshelman

                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                        We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                        There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                        Here are some of the options:

                        1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                        2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                        3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                        If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                        There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                        And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                        Thanks in advance.

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                        Bereshith
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                        Not I. Internet Explorer works fine.

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                        • J Jim Eshelman

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                          We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                          There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                          Here are some of the options:

                          1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                          2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                          3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                          If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                          There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                          And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                          Thanks in advance.

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                          gmugmble
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                          I've refrained from voting because I already own a copy of MMSAA in a format I like and don't plan to buy another. But it seems to me that you would increase your readership by releasing an inexpensive paperback. (Basing your decision on a poll *(http://xkcd.com/937/:1rquu6p6).)

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                          • J Jim Eshelman

                            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                            We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                            There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                            Here are some of the options:

                            1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                            2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                            3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                            If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                            There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                            And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                            Thanks in advance.

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                            Jim Eshelman
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                            Robert, yes, I agree with the weakness of a poll 😀 It's just one source of input on the decision.

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                            • J Jim Eshelman

                              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                              We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                              There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                              Here are some of the options:

                              1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                              2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                              3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                              If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                              There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                              And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                              Thanks in advance.

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                              Jim,

                              I'm not sure whether it's already been said, but as far as I'm concerned there is no substitute for the M&MAA in its current format. I display it proudly next to my hardcover Equinox set et al. hardback reference books. The oversized format makes it stand out. For us bibliophiles this is a plus.

                              It is true that nothing beats the feel of a paperback when you want to sit, or lie down, and read, and it may be that two formats is the way to go after all; but I much prefer hardcovers when doing research, if for no other reason than that they keep you tied down to your desk, focused on your task. There are other benefits, of course, such as laying open much easier than paperbacks.

                              In short, whether you put out another format or not, I think those interested are best served with the current design.

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                              • J Jim Eshelman

                                Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                Here are some of the options:

                                1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                Thanks in advance.

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                                Gemini
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                                93 jim-
                                yes, i did have trouble voting via internet explorer. i got mine in last week through foxfire.
                                93 😀

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                                • J Jim Eshelman

                                  Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                  We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                  There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                  Here are some of the options:

                                  1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                  2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                  3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                  If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                  There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                  And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                  Thanks in advance.

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                                  Corvinae
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                                  @Jim Eshelman said

                                  "
                                  @Ash said
                                  "It won't let me vote, but I'd vote for the current design."

                                  That's strange. I even enabled the right to REvote, so it should let you vote (or change your vote) even if you've already voted.

                                  Are you using some variant browser?

                                  EDIT: I just tested your permissions, Ash, using both IE and Chrome, and don't get voting buttons either way. I'll try to figure out why. (Anybody else not getting voting options?)"

                                  I tried to vote but was unable.

                                  Hum, small and limp...
                                  Or large and hard....

                                  Hum....no brainer....

                                  I was curious if their was going to be a special edition, would it possible to reserve a particular numbered edition?

                                  It is hard for me to commit sometimes, but I think its time I did.

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                                  • J Jim Eshelman

                                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                    We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                    There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                    Here are some of the options:

                                    1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                    2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                    3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                    If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                    There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                    And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                    Thanks in advance.

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                                    Jim Eshelman
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                                    Thanks for the vote. (Love it!)

                                    No, we aren't anticipating a special numbered edition. We did one of those as a "collectible" for 776 1/2 as a Temple of Thelema 20th Anniversary event, but we can't do that all the time - especially in the current economy, most people aren't after expensive "investment" books, no matter how nicely they're made.

                                    But we have decided this year on some little niceties that will become standard to our hardcovers hereafter; and if rising costs require us to bump the price anyway (we're hoping not, but...), then we have some more niceties we can slip in under the same price bump.

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                                    • J Jim Eshelman

                                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                      We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                      There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                      Here are some of the options:

                                      1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                      2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                      3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                      If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                      There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                      And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                      Thanks in advance.

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                                      horustheantichrist
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                                      I will +1 RIDETHETIGER's comment. I have the hardcover and it is beautiful. The only thing I would ask is for a digital version (non-PDF).

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                                      • J Jim Eshelman

                                        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                        We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                        There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                        Here are some of the options:

                                        1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                        2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                        3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                        If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                        There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                        And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                        Thanks in advance.

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                                        jefffaust
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                                        I am looking to study Thelema on my own. Would this be a good book to purchase for like a home study course in Thelema. I am thinking of buying it but I would like to know more about it.

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                                        • J Jim Eshelman

                                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                                          We have enough copies of The Mystical & Magical System of the A.'.A.'. in stock for about one more year (at current sales rate). That means that, late this year, we will be deciding what we want to do about republishing it next year.

                                          There are several options. I thought I'd let all of you weigh in. The vote isn't binding, but I'm interested in what you have to say on the matter.

                                          Here are some of the options:

                                          1. Print it just exactly the way it is - hardcover, same large-size format
                                          2. Print it in the same large format, but go to paperback
                                          3. Redesign the book for the 6" x 9" format used for Visions & Voices - presumably paperback but conceivably hard cover

                                          If we go to paperback, we will still get the best binding we can - it's not the same as the hardcover binding, but far better than the binding on most paperbacks on the market today. Also, though we would expect the paperback cost to be significantly less than hard cover, we won't know what either price will be until we spec the book and bid the job.

                                          There will not be new content, and I do not anticipate significant changes. Since we will be going over every page, I'll read every page and make any small adjustments that strike me, but nothing serious. If we reformat to 6" x 9" these could be a little more extreme, because it's not just a matter of shrinking the pages - it's a matter of redesigning the whole thing, so every page gets a new layout and I'm likely to make adjustments (small trims or small adds) to support the layout here and there.

                                          And I may not have thought of all the considerations that would interest you... so I'm throwing it out for voting and discussion. Thoughts?

                                          Thanks in advance.

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                                          Anonymous
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                                          This is the first book I read that Jim Eshelman wrote. It introduced me to a lot of ideas, history, and methods that were pretty new to me. It was one of the reasons I became aware that the Temple of Thelema existed and for those things it is a foundation in how I've pursued my path which is Thelemic.

                                          That being said - I don't know if I would call it a "home study course in Thelema", but it certainly can be. It gives introductions into the concepts, people, and systems that give the system of the A.'.A.'. context and then goes on to give an in-depth description of the system. Check out the Periodicals and Monographs in the C.O.T. Pulications as well as they are also very interesting.

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