Abremalin AND employment

Bereshith

"There are many other kinds of operations or efforts one can undertake without doing THIS one. One can much more eaasily have a "working retreat" in which, say, one goes one with one's ordinary life except for setting aside a couple of hours every night for deep devotional and/or ritual work in a reserved and prepared sacred space, and uses the normal course of the day (with a reorientation of attitude) to witness oneself and the environment differently. - I recommend MASSIVE amounts of journaling with this approach."

I'm unclear about the specifics of "other kinds of operations or efforts." The nighttime thing is probably going to have to be the thing for me. I think I can swing that. Any particular suggested ritual/s to go with that?

Jim Eshelman

@Sardonyx said

"I'm unclear about the specifics of "other kinds of operations or efforts." The nighttime thing is probably going to have to be the thing for me. I think I can swing that. Any particular suggested ritual/s to go with that?"

Of all operations, this is one I'd go out of my way to leave to you.

You could even model it after some portion of Liber VIII without committing to the full A-M operation.

Jim Eshelman

I can't predict whether it's a good or bad thing. It could go either way. If anything, it tends to "good" because it's likely to enhance the burdens and the ordeal-strain on your soul and, of all operations you could conceive, this is one where that kind of karmic purgation and stark self-stripping (in the sense of paint stripper) is valuable.

sk4p

Didn't A.C. accomplish the K&C while taking his family across China, after all? This is surely adaptable.

I have another question about the K&C, but I'll start a different thread as it pertains to the effects rather than the operation to get there.

--Shawn

Jim Eshelman

@sk4p said

"Didn't A.C. accomplish the K&C while taking his family across China, after all? This is surely adaptable."

Yes. (Except that, half way along the trip, he sent them ahead back to England.)

But, as Phyllis would often tell students: Don't compare yourself to Crowley. His skill and discipline levels were far beyond most people's.

sk4p

Haha. Certainly a good warning. I mean it's flexible in theory, but your own law practice experience should show us that.

Al-Shariyf

FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

www.aftertheangel.com

I got it last weekend and have been glued to it.

I hope this helps

sk4p

I just acquired that last week but haven't dug into it properly yet, but I could have sworn he said he was laid off or something, but his family had enough financial security to get by for the duration, so he said "no time like the present". I got the impression from the few pages I've read so far that he did feel like employment would have been a liability.

Wait, it's on my phone in Kindle form, let's see!

"I commenced this Operation in an apartment to which we had moved and had found ourselves stuck when I was made redundant."

And

"It was fully my intent to take advantage of an "accidental exile" in which my family was situated at the start of this Operation [...] it seemed the only opportunity I had received in thirty years to perform the Abramelin under such ideal circumstances."

Hmmm.

Al-Shariyf

He ended up getting a really crappy job.

sk4p

@Al-Shariyf said

"He ended up getting a really crappy job."

Ahh, fair enough. Like I said, I hadn't dug far enough in yet, but at least at the outset I thought he was actually doing the "full-time Adept" gig we would all dream of.

Al-Shariyf

"Ahh, fair enough. Like I said, I hadn't dug far enough in yet, but at least at the outset I thought he was actually doing the "full-time Adept" gig we would all dream of. "

Ha nah. Close though. You're gonna love it. I can't put it down.

Fr Seraphis

@Al-Shariyf said

"FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

www.aftertheangel.com

I got it last weekend and have been glued to it.

I hope this helps "

Downloading it to my Kindle now.

Thank you for the link.

Al-Shariyf

You're welcome.

I feel compelled to pray we each take on this operation, in this lifetime, with strength and success, Lord willing. Enjoy.

Seth Rah

@Frater INRI said

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@Al-Shariyf said
"FWIW I recommend checking out this book. I believe it would give you an idea of what one could possibly expect when doing the Abremelin Operation while having a job.

www.aftertheangel.com

I got it last weekend and have been glued to it.

I hope this helps "

Downloading it to my Kindle now.

Thank you for the link."

Me too. I can't wait to read.

Jim Eshelman

Though not of book length, you might want to see the the excerpts from The Magical Record of BROTHER PROSERPINUS during his Season of the Performance of The SACRED MAGICK of ABRAMELIN the MAGE in Black Pearl No. 6.

Al-Shariyf

helema.org/publications/bp/bp_set_05-09.pdf

Swamiji

I feel I should point out that there's a common misconception that the original Book of Abra-melin suggests you MUST go on some kind of hermitage and completely disconnect from all your affairs to do this ritual.
That's not true. If you read the text, it states that while that would probably be the EASIEST way to do it, you can do it in almost any circumstance, even if you're a servant or laborer, and it describes ways one should try to compensate.

I held down a job all through my period of doing the K&C of the HGA.

93!

Fr Seraphis

@Swamiji said

"I feel I should point out that there's a common misconception that the original Book of Abra-melin suggests you MUST go on some kind of hermitage and completely disconnect from all your affairs to do this ritual.
That's not true. If you read the text, it states that while that would probably be the EASIEST way to do it, you can do it in almost any circumstance, even if you're a servant or laborer, and it describes ways one should try to compensate.

I held down a job all through my period of doing the K&C of the HGA.

93!"

93

I agree.
It is my observation that **ceremonial **magick has too great an influence on many of us. Ceremonies are just one phase; you know, wandering around in the dark with attire any normal child would be really scared of etc... LOL

Ceremonial stuff is OK, but not absolutely necessary. I know an Adept who did the HGA operation while abroad in military base. Go figure.

It can be done, simply because HGA is not bound by physical body, circumstances or environment, and neither are we.

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Fr Seraphis

@Al-Shariyf said

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I feel compelled to pray we each take on this operation, in this lifetime, with strength and success, Lord willing. Enjoy."

Abramelin operation or the HGA one?

If you mean the later, I wholeheartedly agree.

Al-Shariyf

"Abramelin operation or the HGA one?

If you mean the later, I wholeheartedly agree"

I was not clear but I was implying successfully completing K&C of the HGA, no matter what method of attainment one chooses.