61, 8, 80 and 418
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@justin said
"But quite why 69 is playing such a part when there is no mention of it in the book is puzzling me. Does anyone have any ideas?"
Ideas? Sure.
69 is the the sigil of Cancer, ATU VII.
69 also conveys one of the MOST POWERFUL FORMULAS I know of!!!
IT IS THE HOLY HEXAGRAM!
See also the Book of Lies Chap. 69: The Way to Succeed and the Way to Suck Eggs!
An eloquent and succinct summation of any and all things related to our glorious Art!
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Thanks guys for the context of the paint brushes and the elucidation of 69. I like Crowley's Chapter 69 and the word play... Thanks for that...
So I am probably teaching you to suck eggs, but there might be those who are unaware of this:
I went on with my findings and overlaid the line I got from the matrix of adding equation to itself and got this (see attachment).
There are four instances of 93. Two are attached to 28s on the "line", the lower touches the "i" in the manuscript. The upper is on the "s": S + I = 19 + 9 = 28. The next is on a k: K=11. The final is on the circle squared which can be drawn as shown as a "circle squared in its failure": 69...
So the numbers repeat.
An amazing property of the matrix, is that if you take the rows with just numbers and add the numbers (not the letter-number combinations but just as Excel does it) within them, they all end in 3:
10 rows are... blank (ie just the numbers in the equation): 143, 4:183, 6:203, 3:173, 8:223, 2:163, 4:183, 3:173, 24:383, 89:1033.Any thoughts?
If you select all the cells you get a total of 2860, 99 numbers and an average of 28.8888888... 99 is 9 x 11, 88 is 8 x 11, so again the same 2-8, 1-1, 6-9 is showing up.
All quite unexpected, considering it is my DOB as well and JUSTIN is 93...
Coincidence is great and fun! I wonder what Crowley would make of it?
Again, sorry for repeating things that are out there already...
93!
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@Frater 639 said
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@justin said
"So I am probably teaching you to suck eggs, but there might be those who are unaware of this:"No, but I'm definitely learning a lot about Justin = 93!
I actually get 145..."
This must be an in-joke... What's 145? In Hebrew it can be "excrement", which I can go along with... In English East(45) or(33) West(67)? Neither, I suppose. I was born pretty much on the meridian, 38 minutes west.
One last set of 28s, 11s and 69s and other coincidences, promise. Then the off-switch is pressed.
It's just a bit of fun, really... If you do a matrix of 4638, 4x4, only, guess what: 28s, 11s and 69s! You can also spell Justin out and it creates a lovely "J" to boot. My surname can be represented in there, my father's date of birth is in there... 16 numbers, four-square, mystic, the number of a man... etc etc Even a 418 eeked out from the top left.
Thanks for bearing with! Off-switch pressed.
J
93!
PS: 28+11+69=108. It is 108 years since BOTL was dictated!
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But what does it mean?
What does it* mean *that many others have also presented such self-referential coincidences? Do you realize you're probably the third to post such things to this forum during just this calendar year alone?
If you don't mind me* expounding *on it myself - if that's not some threat to any felt uniqueness on your part - I'd say that this riddle is placed in the text precisely so that each individual will try their hand at it. The temptation is simply too great. The desire to be "the One" is inherently a part of us.
In this case of this riddle, the question we bring to it is, "Am I the child?" along with the intense desire to be such a person in our own universe of experience and meaning. And as each person comes to it with that question and burning desire, the answer* always *seems to be, "You are the Child! Look at the coincidences!" They seem to be there for each individual who attempts it, but in some different combination or using some different technique unique to the individual.
Personally, I no longer look for "the Child."
But I welcome "the Children" as each appears as the Golden Hero of their own personal universe of experience and meaning - the hero of their own life's story.
In my view, I ask - since you are the Child of your own universe of experience and meaning - since you ARE that important thing in your own world - what will you do to affect the unique worlds of experience of others? How does this book apply to your universe? How will you implement this strange and newly discovered ability of Mind? How might the seeming prophecies and warnings apply to the world* you are attempting to create? And with whom*?
But you don't have to listen to me... I'm just a fellow Child and expounder...
"1. Had! The manifestation of Nuit.
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The unveiling of the company of heaven.
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Every man and every woman is a star.
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Every number is infinite; there is no difference.
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Continuing...
If one is going to take the self-referential route to "solve" this riddle, then I have to think that the above analysis is true. This is what happens. This seems to be what people experience with attempts to solve this riddle. On this forum alone, there are what...? at least 3 attempts a year that use coincidences of self-reference as a solution? - each one entirely convinced through their own indescribable experience of these phenomena that the solution to the riddle involves their own personal information.
If one does not take the self-referential route to solving the riddle, then what are the options? What is expected? Will it be the breaking of some code so that the riddle ends up saying something like, "Eat more Ovaltine"? If it's a code, what does it have the potential to say?
It would either confirm the Law in some way, or it would contradict it.
If it contradicts the Law, then it must be thrown away as an untrue solution. What means would one have of confirming it if it contradicted the very text from which it was taken?
If it confirms the Law, through the revelation of some seemingly new worthy meditation or principle, then what could it contain that was not already found in the Law? Again, if the Law itself could not confirm it, what would be the value of the solution? In this case, because any solution could not contain meditations or principles not found in the Law, the emphasis would point once again away from any discovered solution itself and point toward the significance of the person who solved it. Yet again, there are many who have had incredible experiences of discovering possible meditations and principles in the riddle that confirm that which is already found in the Law.
So, in my analysis, at least, the importance of the riddle is the experience - the phenomena - which it generates for the individual who sincerely determines to tackle it.
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Here is your solution:
AKJDKJFAHA AAJDHFKLAHSDJFH ZA fjb dasfhjagdsfkjga alJADHJSGF DLAFKJHD KJASHFUIEWJEAABDUSGFUBAE ;FKJDAKJAISJEFIJ A;KIJADISHF ;KJAHFGKLJAD IFJAD; BHFHEALIDJF ;AIJDHF ;UHhF;';AKDNJF B/q;le z/klxjc
LKNX /nkljfnJBvh b;ckjvnuebnueb/adbkjbnadlfhb;akjfhoi;ajvklzxjckln,mxnv'dknsklnbj kTHAT IS ALL GIBBERISH!
Yeah, I hear you yelling that (a clear indication I am insane).
While trying to see what I am saying (Have you gotten the puns yet?).
The rytheme, thought, the WORD
What I HEARD... Fingers clapping, tapping, across a keyboard making words float on a screen.Have you yet recognized how amazing the process of making a post on this forum is?
To anything, really... As I have a tendency to generally speak with particulars.Bah! I have been away,
In the middle of the Ocean
Floating on a Lotus flower...
I require , still, a few days to cope with my return.So, please, pardon me.
I am very SenSitiveS
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@Bereshith said
"If you don't mind me* expounding *on it myself - if that's not some threat to any felt uniqueness on your part - I'd say that this riddle is placed in the text precisely so that each individual will try their hand at it. The temptation is simply too great. The desire to be "the One" is inherently a part of us."
This. Based upon stuff in both CCXX and Achad's Liber 31 from when he was still working with Crowley (although certainly being rather presumptuous himself, talking about having become an Ipsissimus and all that), I came up with my own system (table of numerical values) for English Gematria years ago, and it's served me very well ever since, leading me to helpful bits of insight and inspiration.
(In fact, I've been chuckling every time 69 was mentioned earlier in this thread, because in my system, 69 = my own first name "Shawn" and also the word "angel"!)
"In this case of this riddle, the question we bring to it is, "Am I the child?" along with the intense desire to be such a person in our own universe of experience and meaning. And as each person comes to it with that question and burning desire, the answer* always *seems to be, "You are the Child! Look at the coincidences!" They seem to be there for each individual who attempts it, but in some different combination or using some different technique unique to the individual."
"Each of us is the child" = "As brothers fight ye!" in my English Gematria.
One clause of an important obligation is to interpret every phenomenon as a particular dealing of God with your soul. And questions of the Law are to be decided "each for himself" through appeal to "my" (Crowley's) writings. So I couldn't agree more. What do the numerical riddles in the book say to you? I suspect that when one has reached a certain level of initiation -- perhaps the K&C -- the insights and unveiling of the riddles proceeds apace.
It has been said that not many people bought the Velvet Underground's debut album, but every one who did started their own band. Well, not many people have read CCXX, but a great many of those who did became qabalists, and that's a good thing!
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"In this case of this riddle, the question we bring to it is, "Am I the child?" along with the intense desire to be such a person in our own universe of experience and meaning. And as each person comes to it with that question and burning desire, the answer always seems to be, "You are the Child! Look at the coincidences!" They seem to be there for each individual who attempts it, but in some different combination or using some different technique unique to the individual. "
absolutely beautiful summary
