Aleister Crowley's Lost Word.
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Worse than elephant herpes?
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She would say, "Whatever. Whoever wishes to dispute me can read my posts time-marked on this forum." ..and it would be proven so.
Then she could knee 'em right in the balls for trying to copyright her ideas. But she would probably just brush it off.
Dara, just did some work and found forty to be the standard value of Hebrew spelling for my HGA. "I am the Warrior Lord of the Forties."
You know, I think all the posted ideas of World War II and RHK are a part of some qabalistic notion that alludes to something more massive and important. However, they do seem valid. I'm only typing this since we speak of the Book of the Law.
For instance, you can take the War, as well as the first human use of one of Nuit's most rare sacraments, and the explosion in the scientific/psychiatric community at that time because of such realized activity. Forty-three it was. By forty-seven, at the time of Crowley's death, the original doctor had made a lot of headway turning on the scientific communities, and they were pleasantly astonished. L cured many a hopeless schizophrenic that couldn't even wipe themselves, turning them into citizens working regular jobs and enjoying life. This is done by finding a schiz, starting with very small doses once a week so his doors aren't jammed open all at once, (something I love to do,) then moving him up to full-on psychedelic doses.
They work through their weirdness and realize that everything they perceived as something else that was disturbing them, was just themselves in disguise. With the ego carefully, (I almost want to say clinically,) gradually and then totally banished from an individual with neurosis of ego, (all of them actually are,) the individual stops paying too much attention to themselves and more on the world and universe around them.
This is when the change occurred, in the forties. The music died in '79, marking the span into the eighties, that are cowardly and abased, moving from natural forms of music in the seventies, into weaker, electronic, beeps and boops that isn't real music, insanely contrasted from the flow of the seventies. Funny how things change in a decade.
Frankie
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Is this the same thing as the so-called Mason's Word? What is the word exactly?
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There is the slight detail that in certain masonic degrees the lost word is revealed already...
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This Lost Word is a secret that is not published openly anywhere, as far as I know. The Lost Word has to do with the Freemasonic myth of Hiram Abiff in its III* of the Word being lost and using "Mahabone" or some form thereof as a placeholder until it is found again. It can be deduced that it represents a formula insofar as Crowley wrote the Word "whose formula does in sober truth 'raise Hiram'" which is another way to say it is a formula that refers to triumphing over death ('raised' is another term for 'resurrected').
Crowley claims to have "found" this word, most likely based on Qabalistic lines (i.e. the symbolism of the letters and their enumeration affirm its efficacy as the Lost Word).
Because its a Freemasonic lost word, and because he mentions "it was also that of the Lost Word of freemasonry, which I had re-discovered, thus linking up the mysteries of the O.T.O. with those of the A.'. A.'."... it can be deduced that, since OTO is a Masonic-styled organization, that it is relevant to the Mysteries of OTO in some way or another.
That will be all.
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@Dara said
"FraterIAO131 is spot on. I'm also told that the legend of the Lost Word of Freemasonry is drawn from Jewish mysticism where it is called the hashem hameforash."
In which case it's not particularly lost then, nor secret for that matter.
How do you fit those 72 little bits of Data into your Temple then?
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Possibly, but I'd be interested to see if its possible nonetheless.
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Again, not looking to be argumentative, but every Royal Arch mason is told the lost word...
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@Dara said
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@Swamiji said
"Again, not looking to be argumentative, but every Royal Arch mason is told the lost word..."The word of the Royal Arch is not the Lost Word. Read Confessions Chapter 85 and that is plain."
Agreed. The Lost Word to which Crowley referred is (to his thinking, at least; and that may be all that matters here) his recovery of the Master Mason's word.
The Royal Arch masonic legend professes to disclose what remained lost to the Master Mason. Their conclusion is totally appropriate within the bounds of the Royal Arch Rite. O.T.O. (since at least WW I) no longer considers the Master's word lost; though this doesn't stop O.T.O. from leveraging the very powerful symbolim of "the Lost Word" elsewhere in a deeper way.
Crowley's "recovery" is especially powerful for the main goal he set himself: The reframing of the O.T.O. rituals so progressively disclose a single synthetic Mystery (and an associated practical methodology).
Aspirants to Light resolved the Master's Word mystery differently - in a way that the Royal Arch quietly suggests it should be solved
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93,
I hope this post is not off topic, but is related to OPs item #5 and not really worthy of its own thread. I came across a Key square in AL with a curious set of correspondences that came out to 258. In 777 Sepher Sephiroth, 258 is attributed to Hiram, spelled as Heh-Yod-Resh-Mem or HIRM. However the key of this spelling is 255 according to the numerical Hebrew attributions defined in the same book. The closest approximation I can find for 258 is Zayin-Yod-Resh-Aleph-Mem which would spell ZIRAM and has the key 258. This configuration has some interesting Keys in it, 217, 218, 201 (201 RA + 217 HVVR = 418) where HIRM does not have any keys. Not sure what I am missing or if it is an error in 777.
Also curious, swap the Mem for Lamed, the spelling becomes ZIRAL, and there emerges a new Key AL=31. The new key of the word is 248 (8x31) which is also an interesting number according to 777. Adding the other Keys plus final (A)L of this new spelling gives 217+218+201+30 (Lamed) = 666.
Another formula has
218+30 (Lamed)=248 (key of the modified word, Abraham re:Zohar, 3 That Bear Witness)201 + 217 + 218 + 30 = 666
418 + 248 = 666279
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@Middleman said
"Is this the same thing as the so-called Mason's Word? What is the word exactly?"
M.A.L.A.R.K.Y.
This formula gives a regimin of the planets that is useful in practical workings.
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@Middleman said
"Is this the same thing as the so-called Mason's Word? What is the word exactly?"
It is the most sacred and private word in the entire rite. The commitment to keep it private outranks perhaps all other pledges of secrecy.
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@Miss Dara 217 said
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@Middleman said
"Is this the same thing as the so-called Mason's Word? What is the word exactly?"It is the most sacred and private word in the entire rite. The commitment to keep it private outranks perhaps all other pledges of secrecy."
That has had its time and outlived its usefulness..."
How would you know? (Unless you are saying this about secrecy of any kind, and not just this particular secret.)
And, more generally, dismissing it as having "outlived its usefulness" doesn't alter the issue of honor and Will for those who took the pledge to protect this.
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@Miss Dara 217 said
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"And, more generally, dismissing it as having "outlived its usefulness" doesn't alter the issue of honor and Will for those who took the pledge to protect this."Unexamined at the very roots of the issue, that can amount to simple blind obedience, and there's nothing honourable about that. It can even be obstructive."
Obedience is one of the virtues the Masonic system (including O.T.O.) seeks to teach. Blind obedience, of course, isn't enough: examined, mindful obedience would be the goal.
It's not even an issue of obedience per se, though. It's a matter of honor and integrity.
And it's not as if anything of value is being withheld from the rest of the world. Knowing the word, I know its literal meaning and the metaphor it's intended to convey within O.T.O. That information wouldn't be worth more than a passing thought to anyone not dedicating their lives to that particular Mystery system. I know its spelling, and that is only going to be of value to someone who is into literal Qabalistic analysis as a mode of meditation. Withholding these things doesn't deprive the world in general (outside of that fellowship) of anything of substance.
I also how the Word is first communicated, and that (except, perhaps, to future anthropologists) of only significant to the people who received it in that particular way and who have pledged themselves to the safe-keeping of the Word itself and to what it comes to mean.
It may very well be that the greatest magical power it possesses is the deep bonds and connection it forges among those who share it.
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@Miss Dara 217 said
"Why not try studying outside of your own little system, Jim - and try and see the wider importance here is beyond a few self-indulgent hippies in California?"
Your insults on this topic are starting to get tedious.
Off-the-mark insults I can tolerate, but tedium is unforgivable.
PS - The Word of which I write - the 3rd Degree Masonic word to which Crowley was referring in the passages you initially quoted - would only be "something with the potential power to unite the Semites of the near east" if they first entered into (and pledged themselves to) the specific rites that lead up to that Word's revelation. It's one of those "synthetic mysteries" that (like the classic Portal ritiual) is only meaningful and effective for those who have all the parts leading up to it.
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I have no reason whatsoever to believe that the Word of which Crowley wrote is a Mystery Word tracing from ancient times.
But it's the word about which you began this thread in your quoting of Crowley concerning it.
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@kasper81 said
"Dara
shouldn't you be keeping all these ideas to yourself , patenting them,making an ebook and marketing it?"You should offer your Work unto the Uni Verse
Accepting what it gifts in return
Without a Lust of Result@Miss Dara 217 said
"You would have to discover why the word has only 216 letters and not 217 but perhaps there must always be a letter that is silent and unknown? Just speculation on my part, but perhaps further study would shed light on that? "
AUM!
Which is OM! (Thelemic HA)
That is O!
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Jim appears to be telling you that its power derives from the dedication & commitment to the rites that lead up to the Words revelation, i.e. it doesnt have inherent power beyond this.
You appear to be asserting that it has some kind of hidden, innate power whose use is being obstructed by secrecy.
If I have gotten these viewpoints accurately, I agree completely with Jim on this issue and personally find your use of insults and personal attacks to be petty and pointless. You started a thread asking about something and started attacking people who gave answers that didn't cohere with what you wanted to hear. That is not and cannot be a characteristic of an honest seeker of truth.
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@IAO131 said
"You appear to be asserting that it has some kind of hidden, innate power whose use is being obstructed by secrecy.
"I thought to bring attention to this as I feel it is an important point
One I have attempted to get across in various ways
Of the Power in keeping a thing close to the Heart
And not the lips
Maintaining it as a secret for a reason besides keeping it hidden from othersA parallel would be the name of a persons HGA
Calling it out in a public square accomplishes nothing
Should the name be spoken at all?
It may be best to leave it etched upon the Heart,
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@Miss Dara 217 said
"Why not try studying outside of your own little system, Jim - and try and see the wider importance here is beyond a few self-indulgent hippies in California?"
Personally, I'll admit to self-indulgence...but hippie? That's an out-moded stereotype. We Californians deserve a little more credit. Maybe one day we'll take all our rockstars and bad movies and just lock ourselves away in a closet full of reefer smoke, forcing the world to develop a coherant culture. You'll be forced to depend on Paris and New York, and eventually you'll come to miss our easygoing wit and pretence-free intelligence.
Perhaps you are simply jealous of our climate, well-being, and extant trees.
England nice this time of year?
Alright, enough of that. Carry on.