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My experiences are private on this matter, but I will state that asthma is not the only side-effect of these experiences.
The actual chest pain is a condition which no one really has an answer for it's called costochondritis and I had at the exact same time
as such experiences you describe. Bleeding noses, Missing Time, it's a nightmare in it's own way. People make it out to be this egoistic thing
you have no idea how many times I thought I was going to die or thought I was going insane. In a sense during such experiences you become
envious around your friends simply for having a simple life. Birth pangs I suppose, worth it to me now. But...yeah not fun. I just wish I had
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I am hosting a big birthday party today, so this is going to be brief....
Chest pain- costocondritis is pain out side of the lungs. It feels like a heart attack I suppose, haven't had a HA, so I'm not sure. But dr says so. It is caused in most cases by emotional stress and strain, conditions that force a person to hold themselves in a certain pattern, meaning that an event that is interpreted as threatening, makes a being closed and ridged, holding a specific muscular pattern which over time is going to wear on ligaments, and tissue, inflaming them ( most ailments all are inflammatory!) causing the little nerves to react and scream. I had this happen to me for the first time a few weeks ago, and thought I was dying, even though I am extremely healthy.
Asthma pain is inside the lungs.
The lungs produce enzymes that are psychotropic, Dmt for example.As a child I would have attacks, which were sometimes emotionally triggered ( ie crying) and some which were environmental triggered (ie cat dander). For me their was a distinct difference in the types of asthma, emotionally triggered asthma would produce vividly colorful geometric forms, in my visual cortex...I would see things. Depending on my emotional state these forms would be perceived as something beautiful and helpful ( like an angel) or some parasitic thing seen under an electron microscope ( deamon).
I have an extremely low base heart rate and respiration rate, and I have learned how to self regulate, in most cases so that if for example someone says something to me that would elicite an extreme emotional reaction, like getting flustered if a really cool guy says hi to me, or I catch some dork spying.....I am not swept away by chemicals manufactured in my own body, chemicals which cloud thinking and reality and make me misinterpet the truth of the situation.
I have never had any experience which could be considered abduction, or extraterrestrial ( horrible word IMO, doesn't really mean much to me, but I understand why some use it).
I did have a reoccurring sensation as a child in bed in the dark, alone. It would start out in a darkness that was darker then my room, (a darker shade would incapsil me) I would feel a slight pressure, getting stronger, and what I can only express as a spiraling, coiling sensation that was sourced at my heart and lungs. It was very scary at first, and their were visuals as well. As this sensation became more common, and I knew I was gonna be ok, I got over the scary part.I also would experience a large group of forms, not human, more like structured light. With this vision, I would have the sensation og fingers and toes tingling, Lack of oxygen, and poor circulation. I remember never wanting to tell anyone about this in my family because I was afraid. I did say somthing once, when as a child I saw a strange comic book hero tv show...Shazam! When I told my mother that I had experiences like that....
Well that's when I had to go play guinea pig for a while, or voodoo doll is actually a better visual.I am supposed to take daily mess for my allergies and asthma. I don't like that, and I always thought, if ww3 ever went down, and I couldn't get my meds, I am as good as dead. I didn't like that thought, not one bit, so that was when I decide to apply myself to health education and took all those courses on holistic healing and alternative medicine.
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I've been informed that pure, uncut heroin and cocaine will reverse the symptoms of asthma, and bronchitis, forgot which respectively.
I've also been informed that they can cause serious addiction. However, for the last twenty years or more of his life, he used at least heroin daily, right there with some of his most powerful workings for those who know, and cocaine as well, daily though, I am not aware.
He expressed that his condition was from being out, many a night, in the cold air that England has after dark.
One never knows about such things. And since every man and every woman is a star, he might have just had enough of his station as Crowley, (as a soldier of Light,) and because he picked up on how powerful he would be, designed a way for himself to pass on through the veil of death to his next, more powerful incarnation. (Despite how old he would have been when he devised such methods of slingshotting through the veil of death and after-death.)
I like cake.
Frankie
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I bet thy pardon, miss Gita. But the Beast was a man through and through, to my knowledge preferring to be one. Not saying he didn't have a beautiful, poetic and sophisticated feminine side.
And let's have less sexual slurs on this forum, huh?
Pardon me, but I have to go drink, get high, make breakfast, get tooted, so I can be ready for work at nine.
Have yerself a wonderful day. And remember, as Anubis says, "Falcon, Disc of the Sun, Wavy Line, Auramoth heiroglyph." It's the best fkin advice I've heard all century.
Frankie
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@Patthana Gati said
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@ThelemicMage said
"However, for the last twenty years or more of his life, he used at least heroin daily. "He used Cannabis for his asthma before the UK banned it, and he was prescribed morphine instead. He was another victim of prohibition.
It's probably one of the many reasons why he preferred to be abroad."
Frankie,
Did you really think she said to be " a broad " ? As in a lady...or are you being puny?Abroad, meaning in this case, any place but England ( possibly Europe ).
IMO, asthma should not be treated with such strong drugs. Asthma can be controlled with completely holistic means, don't let the drug pushers ( ie dr. And Rx co. ) tell you other wise!
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To keep silence. IMO is the recognize the dark side of the soul.
It is very difficult to describe, but when you find the light- shadows will be cast and you must keep this close to you- for here is wisdom.I can put it in many ways- however it will take all night.
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Ladies, I toot about daily. You must think I'm really stupid to not catch that I was being punny about this!
(toot)
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@Patthana Gati said
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@ThelemicMage said
"Ladies, I toot about daily. You must think I'm really stupid to not catch that I was being punny about this! "'Broad' is just not a part of my daily vocabulary mate (not being American and never visiting New York). I just didn't get your pun.
"I didn't get it either at first.
I figured you were all tooted on something Frankie,
Which is why I reread,
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Speaking of being tooted, I'm all out of corn and have to make my breakfast with beans.
Now this thread has gone to it's subject's opposite.
(toot/toot..)
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Interesting article. Funny about the acid trip. The Doc simply took bad sh-t. There's a synthetic amphetamine called DOB (Dimethoxybromoamphetamine) which is used as a substitute in, I'd say, 75-85% of what is circulated as LSD today. It is a powerful and toxic amphetamine, and has highly hallucinogenic properties, much like STP. The amphetamine overworked the Doctor's cardiovascular system, and he "failed to integrate with the inner world," or whatever his trip agenda was.
He would have been better off doing pranayama on a rock in the middle of the river. Drugs are useful, at times, but no shortcut.
Good conversation at points. I tend to agree that these "beings" are transdimensional. All of my experiences have been in different dimensions. However there is no reason to doubt that there exist extraterrestrial beings in our physical universe.
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@Patthana Gati said
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@ThelemicMage said
"However, for the last twenty years or more of his life, he used at least heroin daily. "He used Cannabis for his asthma before the UK banned it, and he was prescribed morphine instead. He was another victim of prohibition.
It's probably one of the many reasons why he preferred to be abroad."
Cannabis does not assist asthma. Fact. Opiates have a direct antitussive action on the lungs, through the cardiovascular system. He used heroin because he was a junkie, and through it he wrote some of the best literature of the English language. (Much of Nietzsche's later and best work was also written under the influence of heroin.) The fact that he was an addict (Crowley) does not invalidate his work. He used a variety of different compounds and did valuable research on plants such as cannabis and peyote long before our current preoccupation with "drugs."
To tie these matters in with the nature of this thread, I once had an experience on cannabis where I "perceived the essential silence of the universe."
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Yes. A lot of people have found that the anxiety-reducing and relaxing effects (of modest quantities) are quite helpful for this asthma.
Of course, smoking it - smoking anything - won't help asthma! But that's all about the delivery method.
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@Patthana Gati said
"Where do you get your facts from?"
Bitter and prolonged experience.
"Cannabis is a bronchial dilator. It can prevent an asthma attack and it was widely prescribed to asthmatics until it was prohibited from sale in 1928 and doctors started to prescribe morphine instead, ironically. Cannabis used to come in a tincture (like cough medicine) and was thought safe enough to give to children with colds and the flu, or women in childbirth (Queen Victoria recommended it)."
It has a weak antitussive action, but nothing like an opium-based compound.
@Jim Eshelman said
"Yes. A lot of people have found that the anxiety-reducing and relaxing effects (of modest quantities) are quite helpful for this asthma.
Of course, smoking it - smoking anything - won't help asthma! But that's all about the delivery method."
You have a point. I was speaking more from a personal level. I can see how the calming effects would assist asthmatics.
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@Mephis said
"Interesting article. Funny about the acid trip. The Doc simply took bad sh-t. There's a synthetic amphetamine called DOB (Dimethoxybromoamphetamine) which is used as a substitute in, I'd say, 75-85% of what is circulated as LSD today. It is a powerful and toxic amphetamine, and has highly hallucinogenic properties, much like STP. The amphetamine overworked the Doctor's cardiovascular system, and he "failed to integrate with the inner world," or whatever his trip agenda was.
He would have been better off doing pranayama on a rock in the middle of the river. Drugs are useful, at times, but no shortcut.
Good conversation at points. I tend to agree that these "beings" are transdimensional. All of my experiences have been in different dimensions. However there is no reason to doubt that there exist extraterrestrial beings in our physical universe."
A correction for the above statements:
DOB, a synthetic amphetamine indeed, is not "mixed" with acid, as common in hippie-speak from those who do NOT know.
LSD is rarely laced with anything. There are rare instances through the seventies and eighties of pills mixed with speed, and that was maybe one in a hundred thousand instances.
I've eaten L, in paper form, recently, through the past three years since DOB has been getting popular, and I am very aware of what goes into my body, not just physically, but psychically. Of the many, many times I've eaten L, it's never, even been cut with anything but paper or water.
DOB is sold "as" L, not used to cut it. Really though, find me a hippie cutting L with some nasty shit like that, and I'll show you one that isn't around anymore. The Dead Family doesn't take that shit lightly, and those who try such things are weeded out:.. One is likely to wind up, sitting comfortably on a couch amongst "friends", when a straight gram of crystalline LSD in powder is blown in their face from the hand of a good man or woman. They never come back. Check insane asylums, there's a few who have tried to muck up our work, and they don't come back.
That is all. Oh...
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I mean this with a certain amount of awe,
You guys seem to do a heck of a lot of drugs.
I am blown away every time I hear the talk, and I have been to many Dead shows, so I know the talk.....
You take these things into you, willingly lovingly, and they deliberately fU ck with your programing, intentially.It just seems like a huge lie to me, a lie that eats away the flesh, and I guess I just love flesh to much to want any part of it.
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@Veronica said
"I mean this with a certain amount of awe,
You guys seem to do a heck of a lot of drugs.
I am blown away every time I hear the talk, and I have been to many Dead shows, so I know the talk.....
You take these things into you, willingly lovingly, and they deliberately fU ck with your programing, intentially.It just seems like a huge lie to me, a lie that eats away the flesh, and I guess I just love flesh to much to want any part of it."
"I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this. "
- AL II:22
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I know,
I know....But seriously, I see things already,
All on my own,
My little package just doses me up,
No cost, no expense.I am naturally loose and laid back,
Lucky me I suppose.I am not begrudging anyone anything.
I also strongly believe that those
Strange drugs
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"The drugs were indeed revealed".
I don't think this is cypher for "only eat and drink and don't go further than what you were born into."
Just saying, listen to her.
I doubt nuit nor nature has a need for us to be "programmed", and I believe thinking anything of the sort leads to only neurotic thinking that these sorts of sacraments from Nuit herself breaks the set of.
Point made, and expressed from the kind waves of Nuit Herself through my fingertips. No joke. Wake up, if you haven't yet.
A "Thelemite" implies you follow the book of the law, and the words and ways of it's first and True prophet. It's not like he didn't know what would happen years after he breathed a certain way or ate at a certain time. See, these things were revealed to him through these drugs, and by someone in active knowledge and conversation with their Angel.
If you haven't actually merged with thy Angel and ascended upon the edge of Light and Darkness and seen other holy guardian angels, you don't know, and I mean you don't know. This is why when I see statements of social neurosis, I must respond.
The more you know.
Frankie
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You can believe and do what ever you want,
For me
I have no desire nor need to consume these strange drugs
They were revealed to me,
If you want that type of flowery language.When I turned my life over,
To Her, my angel
My life changed,
I changedAnd I have never had my angel tell me to blindly follow.