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Geburah as Whirling Forces of Nature

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    Zalthos
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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    I distinctly remember reading somewhere where Gebeurah was described as in the subject, but I can't seem to find exactly where I read it.

    The information occurred to me in what felt like a genuine memory while reading this passage a few days ago:

    @Liber LXV cap I:61 said

    That is thy drunkenness, O holy one, and the winds whirl away the soul of the scribe into the happy haven.

    When I think of Geburah as the winds whirling away the soul of the scribe, the happy haven would of course be Chesed.

    I haven't had any luck tracking down where I read Geburah described this way, though. I rather like the descriptor. I know that Kether and aleph are often described this way, but I always viewed this as the single primordial motion constituting all things rather than some swirling mixture of the more mundane forces of a human's material experience.

    I've been memorizing the first chapter of CCXX (halfway done) and LXV, not because I am doing the work of a lineage; I simply love Nuit and Adonai. Aside from these two, my readings have been bouncing all over the place. Its hard to keep track, but I know I've read from Eshelman's V&V, MTP cap XVIII (Of "Clairvoyance," the Body of Light, its Powers and its Development. Also Concerning Divination), Westcott's Introduction to Kabbalah, and Liber Thoth in the last few days, if that's at all helpful.

    If anyone has any direction as to where Geburah is described this way, it would be helpful to me.

    Many thanks in advance;
    Your's in LVX

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    Jim Eshelman
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    That phrase isn't ringing a bell. It does verge, however, on related ideas of motion, energy, and especially the "tearing down" that complements Chesed as "building up."

    Here's the simplest way to model it:

    Chesed, as 4, can be expressed as 4 points. 4 points define 3 dimensions. Therefore, Chesed is symbolized by "the solid," i.e., a 3D expression that appears, in the world as we know it, as building up, forming things, etc. (Anabolic.)

    Geburah, as 5, can be expressed as 5 points. 5 points define 4 dimensions. Therefore, Geburah adds the 5th dimension of movment through time. The 3D object of Chesed, moved through time, breaks down. (Anabolic.)

    PS - I just did a digital search on my copy of Visions & Voices for the words "whirling force" and found no occurrences.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

    Man, I think I'm reading so much that I'm having dreams about reading! 🙄

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    A passage from Job comes to mind:

    The LORD (presumably Adonai) speaks to Job from "out of the whirlwind". Perhaps this is what you are remembering?

    esv.scripturetext.com/job/38.htm

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    @Katanoese said

    "The LORD (presumably Adonai)"

    Y.H.V.H. in this case. (A study of Job is quite fascinating when you look up each individual divine name, because there is really a whole community interacting.)

    heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5424

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