LBRP
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I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
@Jim Eshelman said
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
When the Adept knows the name of his or her HGA, that, of course, is what should be used.
But Aiwass is of universal value. Aiwass is 93=418 - the direct messenger of HPK, the bearer of The Book of the Law to humanity. He falls not only in the category of Crowley's HGA, but of a high-ranking "secret Chief" with a specific purpose of communicating the current dispensation to humanity.
As such, vibrating the name aligns one with the ideas of 93 and 418 (among others) and with the Thelemic dispensation in general.
It is also a name in which all can participate, as in group work - when, even if one knows the name of one's own HGA, one generally wouldn't want to say it aloud."
So if we are supposed to keep the name of our HGA secret why would Crowley make his so public?
I have read the first couple of pages in this thread but don't have time to read all of them.
Here's my take on the purpose of the LBRP:
When I perform this ritual it is to clear my circle of physical distraction. The Banishing Earth Pentagram is to banish the physical influences that would distract me from completing whatever operation I am about to undertake. It is simply a way for me to train my mind to not be distracted and to snap to a magickal state of being. I feel mentally, physically and spiritually different once I enter my temple and start the performance of this ritual. -
93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
Yeah, I came over a couple of weeks ago but really haven't had the time to look around until this morning.
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
I've been revisiting the LBRP lately, taking a closer look at it. Would it be correct to say that in the same way the four quarters of the Star Ruby pair off (Therion/Babalon, Nuit/Hadit) the four quarters of the LBRP pair off as well? I don't mean in a male/female sense, but more cause/effect as follows:
IHVH/AHIH
ADNI/AGLA -
93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
93
Ive read through nearly all the LBRP threads and cannot seem to find the answer to my question. I've seen it stated that the LBRP can and should be done 2-3 times a day. What about more? 8-9 times? what would be the result of increased frequency of banishing, if any?
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
@PainMeridian said
"Ive read through nearly all the LBRP threads and cannot seem to find the answer to my question. I've seen it stated that the LBRP can and should be done 2-3 times a day. What about more? 8-9 times? what would be the result of increased frequency of banishing, if any?"
the main result would probably be progressive alienation from the world. (Seriously.)
This is a maintenance, baseline level practice. Compare what you are asking to defecation: General guidance is that everyone should take at least one good shit a day, and perhaps once for each meal. But you are asking the equivalent of: If defecating a couple of times a day is good, how about if I make myself shit 8 or 9 times per day.
Now, there are (rare!) times when you want to do this - such as when doing an aggressive colon cleanse. But you don't want to do it everytime. Besides the progressive alienation it would create
it just isn't what the body was made for. -
93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
93
I see, that makes a lot of sense rite now.
I definitely see how that worked out.
I suppose the invoking part of the ritual would bring a person back in the opposite direction => disalienated <= from world events.93 93/93
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
Well, actually, they both accelerate the LVX which accelerates the energy on all patterns of the psyche. And the Invoking tends to leave one more vulnerable to mundane intrusions (think of it as "more temple-ready" and "less street ready").
Stabilization would come from passage of time, or throwing yourself into suitable profane acts, such as watching a Marx Bros. marathon and/or having lots of great sex.
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
@Oscillate said
"Are there any other blinds in the LBRP that one should be aware of?"
None I can think of at the moment.
"On a more general note (and I apologize that this is going off-topic) - why are blinds in rituals perpetuated? Do they represent a general holding back of information that helps preserve the distinction between the non-initiate and initiate? Or are there reasons that are more specific to the particular ritual?"
Various reasons, and sometimes that. Other times it's not even intentional. Consider this: If an instruction is only expected to be used by people who have face-to-face training and frequently participate in a matter, then the written instructions have a different standard of detail to meet than if you were writing them for widespread, stand-alone use.
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
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93!
I am trying to get as much detailed information as possible for my study of the LBRP. While surfing some thelemic websites I found the following comment:
"Aiwass only represents the Holy Guardian Angel in so far as Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Angel, and invoking anyone else's HGA is a piece of folly and futility (compare the final remarks in Z2 Shin of Shin) so if the name of one's own "Angel" is unknown, or if doing the ritual in company, it might be better to substitute some general name or title, or simply pause briefly." www.geocities.com/nu_isis/lbrp.html
Now, I know there are many websites and the sources are questionable, hence I am asking your opinion on this statement.
Also, is there a good source that explains the detailed visualization of the archangels in the LBRP?
@JNV33 said
"One thing I immediately wonder is - why not compress the full phrase into AGLA? Why would that be considered a blind?"
It's not like saying NASA and everyone known what you're meaning <bg>.
Hebrew words used in magick are formulas composed of the sound-units (among other things) of the individual letters. They have magical significance on several levels including (for example) the numeric. The Pentagram Ritual itself is an intertwined set of ideas persistently expressing a single mathematical idea that is also encoded in the physical geometry of the pentagram itself. The value of the full phrase, 858, is a perfect expression of part of this one mathematical idea of the ritual.
That's just one level, of course. There are others, such as sound. A.G.L.A. as about as non-resonant as a set of pronounceable letters can get.
The full, vibrant recitation of Attah Giboor le-Olahm, Adonai (especially if done with adherance to the melodic patterns of each letter) is stunning and moving.