blood of the moon!
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
There is so much to say about this that I barely know where to begin.
To the connoisseur of the bleeding cunt, the fine wine of cunnilingus during menstruation is an awesome, spiritually infusing experience. It's not just the blood per se (though I presume some atavistic attraction to blood is involved) - the whole hormonal mix is different at that part of her cycle, and the scent (both consciously and subliminally perceptible) is powerfully different. It's simultaneously both a profound cathedral-like spirituality, and a pagan wildness.
Things are different for a woman at this time also. In addition to the fact that, for many, cunnilingus during menstruation relieves a number of discomforts, the hormonal change also affects how sex feels to her, arousal levels, other things about her feeling relationship to her body, etc. This changes the magical and physical characteristics of what her body is creating.
Another important consideration about this blood, and its effects both magical and psychological, is the long-term taboo around it In most cultures (and especially in Judeo-Christian-Islam influenced culture), menstrual blood is taboo. From Medieval Christian culture (but also in some Eastern cultures), a woman during menstruation is deemed "unclean." Jewish law requires married couples to copulate on the Sabbath Eve, but prohibits this if the woman is menstruating. And so forth. Pushing past this taboo is, itself, a psychologically powerful event that has magical implications.
It's worth understanding the basis of the taboo. It is usually considered (and I agree with this) that the taboo created by religious authorities due to their understanding of the enormous power in it. But it's worth understanding the roots of these taboos. Something that I don't think is ever stated precisely in the Torah, but which can be seen many times if you read the foundations of the Hebrew religion in Exodus, Numbers, etc., is that YHVH was a blood-devouring God who jealously demanded all blood for Himself. Only He gets to consume blood, and it is offered to him in huge quantities. It is a "sin" to consume blood in that religion, because it belongs to God. Therefore, the prohibition against menstrual conjugation (and especially menstrual cunnilingus) is related to the restriction against non-Kosher beef: You're eating (or at least playing with) God's personal food store. Conversely, the conscious consumption of this blood is not only pushing against a taboo, it is consuming the sacred food reserved for God alone.
This provides an interesting basis for one aspect of a distinctly Hebraic tantra from the woman's point of view: The point of view during menstruation would be that her body is more intimately God's own during that time. If she chooses to have sex, then she may experience her partner, during that time, as truly being God to her (of whatever gender, of course), and herself as a living sacrifice to that God.
It's also worth mentioning that, during Crowley's time, all of this had even more importance not only because of the depth of taboo, but because birth control was a dodgy and unreliable art. One of the few reliable options for pregnancy-free vaginal intercourse was sex during menstruation. This, in addition to the effects of the hormonal shifts on a woman's arousal (often as strong as her arousal levels at ovulation), surely led for a much more liberated sexuality at that precise part of the month.
All of this is in addition to the literal purpose of the blood. It was originally there to serve as the food for a gestating child.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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"It was originally there to serve as the food for a gestating child."
Brings to mind the image of the pelican feeding its babies in the Thoth Empress card. I, too, wondered what the magical signifiance of menstrual blood was. Thanks for clarifying the significance Jim. My whole perspective on "earning red wings" has been drastically altered
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@Ra-Imhotep said
"Brings to mind the image of the pelican feeding its babies in the Thoth Empress card."
Yes. Same symbol, essentially.
"My whole perspective on "earning red wings" has been drastically altered
"LOL! Enjoy
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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WOW this is such a great post on this subject jim i thank you!
you have broadened my outlook on the holiness of this holy subject.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was also wondering why in liber AL does this blood of the moon(menstral blood) come before host of heaven (semen)?
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@bethata418 said
"you have broadened my outlook on the holiness of this holy subject."
I suspect the answer is in the principle that true power is in the feminine, not the masculine. The Scarlet Woman / Babalon / etc. is she "in whom all power is given."
Some of the principles mentioned above may also apply. For example, there has never been the kind of cultural antipathy toward fellatio that there has been toward menstrual cunnilingus. (The exception being, of course, in contexts that are anti-sexual altogether; but that's not a fair comparison.)
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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I like to avoid the heavy days.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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Redd Fezz wrote:
"Hell's Angels did/do this as a matter of routine. Apparently, it can also make you a toughguy with a loud bike and a rotten attitude."
Which just goes to underline the vital importance of intent in magick. The biker ritual is aimed at enhancing male dominance via a demonstration of recklessness. This thread is about working with, and honoring, the power of the feminine.
I admit this is not a subject close to my heart. But I can't entirely separate socially ingrained attitudes of disgust or disdain from the mystery or power aspects of menstrual blood. The two are woven around each other like the snakes on the caduceus.
Edward
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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Vote for Hillary!
I'd do it in a second if I thought it would do anything, regardless of how disgusting it is. What could it possibly do? I mean, really? At the very most, I suspect you could get a little bit of a "high" off it, maybe even a wallop of a high like fictional portrayal of adrenochrome in Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas... but, no matter what happens, it will pass. It seems to me like dropping acid and expecting enlightenment. I've done plenty of that and I know people who turn to drugs for the answers they seek are fooling themselves (and possibly those who read their books).
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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Redd Fezz wrote: "I'd do it in a second if I thought it would do anything, regardless of how disgusting it is. What could it possibly do? I mean, really?"
The answer to this is; many things! Especially, as Edward wrote, if coupled with the right intent, and a properly prepared magical enviroment. Every thing is One with ALL, and a part of the ALL. There is nothing you can think, say or do that will not affect the ENTIRE UNIVERSE! Everything, especially that which you perceive, has it's counterpart in you, and therefore; it is a powerful talisman for finding that part of you, and using it for the Great Work. Things that are personally taboo are especially powerful, as are things that you find the most beauty in."no matter what happens, it will pass. It seems to me like dropping acid and expecting enlightenment. I've done plenty of that and I know people who turn to drugs for the answers they seek are fooling themselves (and possibly those who read their books)."
Perhaps it would help to not think of "enlightenment" as a static thing, or a destination. Everything passes from one form to another, the pattern in Chaos is change!This is it's stability! At least here in Assiah/Yetzirah, things will always seem to be shifting, if we are viewing it on that level. Enlightenment evolves and if nothing else "happened" you would still be changed by the event, a work of magick in it's self!
I highly recomend checking out Dion Fortune's The Cosmic Doctrine! if you have not read it!
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@Redd Fezz said
"What happens if you eat out a chick on her period?
With the greatest of magical intentions, even?"
Well, if nothing else, you'll probably get a second date.
"Does it give you super powers?
Does it do ANYTHING???????"
Yes. Yes. Anything.
PS - See my first post in this thread. q.e.d.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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so do you think on the magickal level, a girl on her period much increases the success of the ritual, than if the sex magick was done with her while not having her period?
back in earily 2004 when i 1st start to experience with sex magick, mostly just sigil 9th degree work, me and my girlfriend only did this form of magick when she was on her period due to it was work with the fluids and she was afraid this work done at anyother time may get her pregnant. so i really can not accurately look back at my magickal diaries and see if the rate of success is better on or off there period.
but i must agree with you, for some odd reason it greatly increases the emotions & lust during the act of sex, for both the male and the female. and the smell always reminds me of a sweet very sugary wine. LOL
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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@bethata418 said
"so do you think on the magical level, a girl on her period much increases the success of the ritual, than if the sex magick was done with her while not having her period?"
Some things I am not at liberty to answer simply because I gave my word I wouldn't.
But see my original answer above. One thing I'll add - as a safety concern - is that the energy at this time is much wilder, and it is isn't necessarily the male magician that controls it. As a rule, it certainly isn't he alone that controls is.
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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In some tantras they drink menstrual blood and semen mixed together. It's described in Alexandra David-Neel's "Magic and Mystery in Tibet," if I remember correctly.
The more I study Dzogchen and Vajrayana Buddhism, the more convinced I become that Crowley's disinterest in Buddhism is really just his realization of Rig Pa, the Great Perfection of Dzogchen. This is basically the highest form of Buddhism and yet pretty much disregards all the lower forms. It is also antinomian which some people could perceive as amoral, just like Crowley's law.
Something interesting I picked up on a related note: during a Gana Puja ceremony, Dzogchen practitioners drink alcohol and eat meat (very non-Buddhist!)... the reason I was given for this is alcohol gives a taste of Rig Pa and by eating meat, we are connecting with the energy of the animal and helping to liberate it with our intention... two ideas that seem very in-keeping with Thelema and the violence of the Book of The Law to me!
Perhaps that explains Crowley's sport hunting?
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i was wondering if people would like to further comment on the magickal menstral blood? like what all is its magickal meaning?
u know i see the whole thing of that is the egg of light we come from, as well as the word of the magus can be imprinted on the egg which i think we should do in mass. but any other ideas???
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According to what I've read, meat is a standard part of a monastic diet in Tibet. People would not last without it, in part because they need to make more red blood cells to survive in the high altitude. Chang (barley beer) is an ocasional part of monastic diet. But there's nothing exceptional in monks eating and drinking these things.
Edward