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    wrote on last edited by
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    I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

    Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

    from a member, which i excluded his name.

    here it goes:

    Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
    involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
    "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
    it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
    VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
    BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
    Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

    Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
    literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
    "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
    WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
    "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
    BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
    A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

    Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
    weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
    into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
    "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
    For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
    enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
    flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
    and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

    www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

    The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
    existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
    angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

    Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
    to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
    recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
    Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
    Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
    kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
    encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
    appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
    afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
    animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
    Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
    of "evil monsters."

    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
    www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
    www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

    Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
    Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
    into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
    this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
    not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
    Real Demons are free now.

    To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
    truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
    actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
    FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
    correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
    you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
    then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
    in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
    self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
    evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
    turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
    spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
    them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

    Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
    have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
    get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
    reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
    might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
    some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
    truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
    of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
    Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
    been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
    with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
    feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
    couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
    really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

    By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
    (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
    Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
    Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
    Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
    nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
    "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
    www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
    enlightenment and power are at.

    So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
    it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
    you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
    simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
    www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
    GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
    by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
    jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
    Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
    www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
    will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
    with each other and are not even part of the same family.

    I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
    "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
    original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
    Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
    then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
    is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
    practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
    before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
    Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
    this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

    The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
    Plain and simple.

    END Please keep reading my response below

    Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

    What does this satanist mean by what he says

    King Solomon

    If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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    • K Kingsolomon

      I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

      Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

      from a member, which i excluded his name.

      here it goes:

      Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
      involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
      "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
      it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
      VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
      BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
      Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

      Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
      literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
      "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
      WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
      "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
      BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
      A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

      Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
      weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
      into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
      "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
      For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
      enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
      flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
      and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

      www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

      The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
      existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
      angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

      Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
      to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
      recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
      Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
      Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
      kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
      encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
      appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
      afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
      animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
      Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
      of "evil monsters."

      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
      www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
      www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

      Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
      Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
      into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
      this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
      not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
      Real Demons are free now.

      To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
      truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
      actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
      FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
      correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
      you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
      then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
      in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
      self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
      evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
      turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
      spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
      them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

      Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
      have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
      get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
      reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
      might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
      some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
      truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
      of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
      Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
      been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
      with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
      feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
      couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
      really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

      By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
      (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
      Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
      Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
      Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
      nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
      "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
      www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
      enlightenment and power are at.

      So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
      it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
      you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
      simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
      www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
      GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
      by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
      jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
      Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
      www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
      will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
      with each other and are not even part of the same family.

      I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
      "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
      original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
      Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
      then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
      is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
      practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
      before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
      Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
      this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

      The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
      Plain and simple.

      END Please keep reading my response below

      Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

      What does this satanist mean by what he says

      King Solomon

      If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

      J Offline
      J Offline
      jw.
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Historically a particular culture's demons are often the gods of its enemies. This form of satanism does the opposite, by making its gods of its enemy's demons.

      @Kingsolomon said

      "WHY THE {shag} WOULD YOU WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A {shagging} TRIANGLE USING THE "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN A {shagging} STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! {shagging} losers."

      In Crowley's system it is pretty clear that spirits like "Baal" are to be taken as parts of the psyche. In Magick (parts 2 and 3), both the circle & triangle reside within the temple, which represents the whole of the magician's consciousness & universe. The circle contains materials, energies, spirits concentrated toward the magician's Great Work (purification, consecration, initiation, invocation of God(s)). It represents a star within the universe. The triangle outside of the circle is for focusing energies which are not disposed to the Great Work (evocation of spirits). It represents a dark satellite of the star in need of illumination (hmm... dark-matter?). The evocated spirit is charged with a task the magician believes will further their Work, and if successful reflects the magician's starlight, like a moon or planet.

      "By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's, Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A. Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's, Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources, www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge, enlightenment and power are at. "

      Well if that's the best list of author's he can cite, I'm just gonna say it: he's not well-read occultly or otherwise. How many of those authors are viewed as credible sources? Outside of occult circles: none!

      On a personal note, I think it is cute that "the true source of knowledge" is found on a website with red text on a black background complete flaming hail-satan gifs (what, no rotating skulls?).

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      • K Kingsolomon

        I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

        Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

        from a member, which i excluded his name.

        here it goes:

        Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
        involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
        "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
        it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
        VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
        BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
        Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

        Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
        literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
        "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
        WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
        "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
        BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
        A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

        Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
        weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
        into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
        "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
        For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
        enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
        flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
        and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

        www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

        The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
        existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
        angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

        Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
        to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
        recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
        Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
        Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
        kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
        encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
        appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
        afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
        animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
        Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
        of "evil monsters."

        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
        www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
        www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

        Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
        Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
        into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
        this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
        not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
        Real Demons are free now.

        To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
        truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
        actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
        FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
        correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
        you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
        then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
        in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
        self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
        evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
        turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
        spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
        them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

        Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
        have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
        get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
        reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
        might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
        some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
        truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
        of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
        Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
        been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
        with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
        feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
        couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
        really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

        By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
        (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
        Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
        Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
        Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
        nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
        "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
        www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
        enlightenment and power are at.

        So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
        it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
        you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
        simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
        www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
        GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
        by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
        jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
        Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
        www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
        will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
        with each other and are not even part of the same family.

        I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
        "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
        original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
        Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
        then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
        is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
        practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
        before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
        Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
        this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

        The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
        Plain and simple.

        END Please keep reading my response below

        Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

        What does this satanist mean by what he says

        King Solomon

        If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

        K Offline
        K Offline
        Kingsolomon
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        did you see on that site where you can dedicate your soul to satan in blood signing?

        there serious about that..
        and you can buy books, tapes instructional cd's

        But YET THELEMA is the devils work?

        and they have lucifer's sigil

        plus they honor the goetia, that MAGICIANS like crowley and mathers discovered.

        research that site.

        it almost tempted me .. and I dont know why.

        I'll stick with thelema

        93 93/93
        king solomon

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        • K Kingsolomon

          I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

          Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

          from a member, which i excluded his name.

          here it goes:

          Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
          involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
          "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
          it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
          VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
          BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
          Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

          Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
          literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
          "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
          WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
          "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
          BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
          A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

          Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
          weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
          into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
          "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
          For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
          enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
          flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
          and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

          www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

          The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
          existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
          angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

          Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
          to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
          recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
          Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
          Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
          kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
          encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
          appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
          afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
          animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
          Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
          of "evil monsters."

          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
          www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
          www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

          Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
          Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
          into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
          this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
          not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
          Real Demons are free now.

          To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
          truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
          actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
          FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
          correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
          you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
          then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
          in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
          self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
          evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
          turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
          spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
          them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

          Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
          have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
          get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
          reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
          might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
          some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
          truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
          of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
          Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
          been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
          with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
          feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
          couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
          really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

          By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
          (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
          Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
          Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
          Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
          nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
          "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
          www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
          enlightenment and power are at.

          So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
          it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
          you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
          simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
          www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
          GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
          by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
          jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
          Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
          www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
          will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
          with each other and are not even part of the same family.

          I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
          "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
          original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
          Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
          then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
          is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
          practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
          before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
          Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
          this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

          The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
          Plain and simple.

          END Please keep reading my response below

          Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

          What does this satanist mean by what he says

          King Solomon

          If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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          YHVH
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          ""

          It has, among others, all three (actually, two) of these.

          About left-hand-path "thelemites": I think that the Book of the Law is pretty clear about this (personal oppinion):

          "I22.
          Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me. Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof, do ye also thus. Bind nothing! Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
          "

          Isn't this instruction clearly contrary to the objectives of the LHP???

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          • K Kingsolomon

            I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

            Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

            from a member, which i excluded his name.

            here it goes:

            Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
            involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
            "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
            it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
            VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
            BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
            Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

            Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
            literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
            "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
            WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
            "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
            BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
            A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

            Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
            weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
            into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
            "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
            For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
            enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
            flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
            and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

            www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

            The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
            existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
            angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

            Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
            to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
            recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
            Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
            Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
            kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
            encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
            appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
            afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
            animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
            Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
            of "evil monsters."

            www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
            www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
            www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

            Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
            Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
            into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
            this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
            not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
            Real Demons are free now.

            To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
            truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
            actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
            FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
            correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
            you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
            then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
            in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
            self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
            evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
            turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
            spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
            them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

            www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

            Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
            have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
            get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
            reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
            might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
            some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
            truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
            of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
            Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
            been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
            with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
            feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
            couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
            really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

            By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
            (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
            Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
            Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
            Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
            nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
            "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
            www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
            enlightenment and power are at.

            So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
            it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
            you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
            simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
            www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
            GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
            by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
            jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
            Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
            www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
            will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
            with each other and are not even part of the same family.

            I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
            "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
            original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
            Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
            then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
            is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
            practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
            before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
            Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
            this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

            The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
            Plain and simple.

            END Please keep reading my response below

            Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

            What does this satanist mean by what he says

            King Solomon

            If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

            N Offline
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            nashimiron
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @YHVH said

            "About left-hand-path "thelemites": I think that the Book of the Law is pretty clear about this (personal oppinion):

            "I22.
            Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me. Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof, do ye also thus. Bind nothing! Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
            "

            Isn't this instruction clearly contrary to the objectives of the LHP???"

            It's certainly contrary to the situation with Black Brothers but thats not related to left hands or right hands. 😕 My understanding is that the Black Brothers are those who have turned back at the point of crossing the Abyss, and it makes no difference how you got there, LHP or RHP or you take the high road and I'll take the low road. 😆

            I've seen a lot of debates raging about how you should define the LHP and RHP, most sensible suggestions for those who need such definitions suggest the LHP is all about tantric practices and quaffing down gallons of bodily fluids.

            At the end of the day though I think all these definitions are subjective and limiting. If you want to play the guitar properly you need to use both hands!

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            • K Kingsolomon

              I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

              Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

              from a member, which i excluded his name.

              here it goes:

              Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
              involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
              "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
              it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
              VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
              BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
              Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

              Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
              literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
              "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
              WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
              "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
              BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
              A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

              Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
              weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
              into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
              "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
              For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
              enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
              flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
              and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

              www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

              The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
              existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
              angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

              Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
              to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
              recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
              Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
              Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
              kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
              encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
              appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
              afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
              animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
              Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
              of "evil monsters."

              www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
              www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
              www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

              Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
              Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
              into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
              this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
              not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
              Real Demons are free now.

              To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
              truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
              actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
              FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
              correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
              you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
              then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
              in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
              self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
              evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
              turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
              spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
              them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

              www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

              Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
              have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
              get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
              reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
              might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
              some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
              truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
              of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
              Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
              been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
              with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
              feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
              couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
              really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

              By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
              (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
              Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
              Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
              Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
              nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
              "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
              www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
              enlightenment and power are at.

              So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
              it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
              you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
              simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
              www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
              GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
              by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
              jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
              Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
              www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
              will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
              with each other and are not even part of the same family.

              I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
              "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
              original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
              Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
              then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
              is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
              practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
              before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
              Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
              this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

              The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
              Plain and simple.

              END Please keep reading my response below

              Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

              What does this satanist mean by what he says

              King Solomon

              If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

              Y Offline
              Y Offline
              YHVH
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              "I've seen a lot of debates raging about how you should define the LHP and RHP, most sensible suggestions for those who need such definitions suggest the LHP is all about tantric practices and quaffing down gallons of bodily fluids.
              "

              When I said LHP, I meant being a Black Brother. Seems non-thelemic by definition.

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              • K Kingsolomon

                I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                from a member, which i excluded his name.

                here it goes:

                Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                of "evil monsters."

                www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                Real Demons are free now.

                To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                enlightenment and power are at.

                So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                Plain and simple.

                END Please keep reading my response below

                Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                What does this satanist mean by what he says

                King Solomon

                If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                W Offline
                W Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @nashimiron said

                "
                @YHVH said
                "About left-hand-path "thelemites": I think that the Book of the Law is pretty clear about this (personal oppinion):

                "I22.
                Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me. Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof, do ye also thus. Bind nothing! Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
                "

                Isn't this instruction clearly contrary to the objectives of the LHP???"

                It's certainly contrary to the situation with Black Brothers but thats not related to left hands or right hands. 😕 My understanding is that the Black Brothers are those who have turned back at the point of crossing the Abyss, and it makes no difference how you got there, LHP or RHP or you take the high road and I'll take the low road. 😆

                I've seen a lot of debates raging about how you should define the LHP and RHP, most sensible suggestions for those who need such definitions suggest the LHP is all about tantric practices and quaffing down gallons of bodily fluids.

                At the end of the day though I think all these definitions are subjective and limiting. If you want to play the guitar properly you need to use both hands!"

                LHP/ RHP, as used by most Satanic religions, boils down to something along the following lines:

                LHP seeks to empower the ego and leads towards apotheosis.

                RHP seeks to break down the ego and leads to Tao/ Samadhi/ ect.

                I don't really see how you can "play with both hands" and simultaneously build and break down your ego so as to sever yourself from the universe and become one with it. I don't know what debates you've been looking at, but systems like LaVeyan Satanism are both clearly LHP and clearly devoid of "tantric practices and quaffing down gallons of bodily fluids" - "I am my own God" is enough to fit the definition resoundingly.

                The reason black brothers are black brothers, according to Crowley, is that they refuse to let go of their ego - that is, they take the Left Hand Path. Properly crossing the Abyss in Crowley's system means letting go of one's ego, and embracing the Right Hand Path.

                As for the actual OP:

                1. First one would have to establish which Satanism we're discussing. Joy of Satan is very different than Church of Satan is very different than Temple of Set is very different than the Order of Nine Angels, and so forth.

                2. Joy of Satan = crazy people. Unless, of course, we actually want to get on the boat with people who preach that the war on Iraq was Bush's attempt to destroy artifacts in Saddam's possession that could disprove Christianity.

                3. Ceremonial magick =/= Thelema. The fact that many Thelemites practice Goetia, as do many followers of JoSM, in no way implies that the two systems are compatible. Technically there may be overlaps, but philosophically they are worlds apart.

                4. I stand by YHVH's point about LHP/ RHP - one of the few common elements amongst Satanic religions is the LHP desire to strengthen the ego.

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                • K Kingsolomon

                  I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                  Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                  from a member, which i excluded his name.

                  here it goes:

                  Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                  involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                  "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                  it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                  VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                  BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                  Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                  Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                  literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                  "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                  WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                  "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                  BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                  A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                  Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                  weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                  into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                  "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                  For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                  enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                  flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                  and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                  www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                  The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                  existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                  angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                  Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                  to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                  recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                  Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                  Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                  kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                  encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                  appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                  afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                  animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                  Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                  of "evil monsters."

                  www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                  www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                  www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                  Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                  Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                  into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                  this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                  not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                  Real Demons are free now.

                  To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                  truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                  actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                  FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                  correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                  you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                  then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                  in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                  self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                  evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                  turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                  spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                  them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                  www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                  Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                  have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                  get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                  reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                  might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                  some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                  truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                  of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                  Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                  been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                  with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                  feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                  couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                  really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                  By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                  (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                  Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                  Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                  Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                  nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                  "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                  www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                  enlightenment and power are at.

                  So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                  it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                  you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                  simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                  www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                  GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                  by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                  jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                  Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                  www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                  will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                  with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                  I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                  "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                  original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                  Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                  then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                  is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                  practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                  before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                  Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                  this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                  The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                  Plain and simple.

                  END Please keep reading my response below

                  Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                  What does this satanist mean by what he says

                  King Solomon

                  If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                  A Offline
                  A Offline
                  Anonymous
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  i'm no expert in satanism or in the joy of satan for that matter.
                  But it seems fairly clear to me that Thelema and Satanism are very different, at least very different from that kind of Satanism that guy was talking about. I can't see no difference between the way he spoke about satan, and the way a common priest would talk about God, very superficial, and very litteral, meaning that he takes satan as an Entity that actually is and has to be worshiped, much like God. From what i understand from his words, his view of magic is just Satan worship and demon evocation.
                  Master Crowley's teachings are universal, subtle, deep and meaningful, and can't be compared to some fanatic Satanist view of Magick(if they really do understand what Magick is).

                  To the question that is there any Satanist Thelemite, i'd say, it depend's on what kind of satanism we are talking about, what we mean with Satan.

                  I for example have a very deep respect for the figure of Lucifer, The Rebel, and i don't ask if he even exists or not because i do not really care. I that respect i might be called a Satanist from a lot of common people, but i'm in line with Crowley's ideas, and in that regard i might be called a thelemite, although i don't know if i am really one.

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                  • K Kingsolomon

                    I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                    Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                    from a member, which i excluded his name.

                    here it goes:

                    Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                    involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                    "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                    it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                    VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                    BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                    Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                    Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                    literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                    "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                    WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                    "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                    BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                    A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                    Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                    weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                    into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                    "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                    For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                    enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                    flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                    and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                    www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                    The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                    existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                    angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                    Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                    to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                    recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                    Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                    Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                    kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                    encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                    appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                    afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                    animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                    Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                    of "evil monsters."

                    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                    www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                    www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                    Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                    Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                    into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                    this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                    not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                    Real Demons are free now.

                    To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                    truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                    actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                    FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                    correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                    you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                    then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                    in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                    self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                    evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                    turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                    spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                    them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                    Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                    have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                    get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                    reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                    might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                    some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                    truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                    of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                    Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                    been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                    with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                    feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                    couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                    really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                    By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                    (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                    Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                    Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                    Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                    nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                    "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                    www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                    enlightenment and power are at.

                    So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                    it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                    you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                    simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                    www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                    GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                    by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                    jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                    Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                    www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                    will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                    with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                    I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                    "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                    original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                    Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                    then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                    is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                    practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                    before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                    Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                    this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                    The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                    Plain and simple.

                    END Please keep reading my response below

                    Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                    What does this satanist mean by what he says

                    King Solomon

                    If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                    J Offline
                    J Offline
                    jlpugh
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

                    How does an organization purporting to be evil operate anyhow? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't everyone just rebel against the authority of the group until there's nothing left? What could be more honorable in a satanic cult than usurping the authority of the group?

                    I think organizations of human beings that are evil by principle only exist in movies and video games. In order to be a truly evil organization, you've got to pretend to be good.

                    @Kingsolomon said

                    "it almost tempted me .. and I dont know why."

                    Don't be tempted by upstarts. If you want to join a truly evil organization, I happen to know of one that is worldwide. They've been perpetrating sexual abuse on children, and systematically covering it up for years. And they're rich!

                    Love is the law, love under will.

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                    • K Kingsolomon

                      I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                      Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                      from a member, which i excluded his name.

                      here it goes:

                      Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                      involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                      "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                      it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                      VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                      BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                      Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                      Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                      literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                      "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                      WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                      "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                      BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                      A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                      Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                      weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                      into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                      "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                      For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                      enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                      flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                      and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                      www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                      The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                      existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                      angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                      Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                      to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                      recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                      Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                      Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                      kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                      encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                      appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                      afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                      animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                      Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                      of "evil monsters."

                      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                      www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                      www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                      Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                      Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                      into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                      this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                      not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                      Real Demons are free now.

                      To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                      truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                      actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                      FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                      correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                      you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                      then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                      in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                      self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                      evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                      turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                      spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                      them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                      Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                      have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                      get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                      reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                      might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                      some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                      truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                      of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                      Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                      been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                      with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                      feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                      couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                      really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                      By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                      (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                      Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                      Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                      Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                      nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                      "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                      www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                      enlightenment and power are at.

                      So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                      it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                      you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                      simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                      www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                      GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                      by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                      jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                      Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                      www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                      will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                      with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                      I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                      "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                      original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                      Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                      then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                      is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                      practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                      before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                      Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                      this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                      The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                      Plain and simple.

                      END Please keep reading my response below

                      Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                      What does this satanist mean by what he says

                      King Solomon

                      If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                      Wilder
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      "How does an organization purporting to be evil operate anyhow? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't everyone just rebel against the authority of the group until there's nothing left? What could be more honorable in a satanic cult than usurping the authority of the group?"

                      JoSM doesn't purport to be evil.

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                      • K Kingsolomon

                        I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                        Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                        from a member, which i excluded his name.

                        here it goes:

                        Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                        involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                        "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                        it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                        VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                        BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                        Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                        Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                        literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                        "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                        WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                        "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                        BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                        A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                        Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                        weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                        into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                        "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                        For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                        enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                        flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                        and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                        www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                        The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                        existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                        angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                        Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                        to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                        recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                        Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                        Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                        kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                        encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                        appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                        afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                        animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                        Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                        of "evil monsters."

                        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                        www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                        www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                        Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                        Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                        into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                        this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                        not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                        Real Demons are free now.

                        To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                        truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                        actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                        FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                        correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                        you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                        then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                        in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                        self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                        evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                        turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                        spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                        them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                        Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                        have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                        get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                        reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                        might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                        some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                        truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                        of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                        Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                        been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                        with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                        feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                        couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                        really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                        By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                        (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                        Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                        Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                        Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                        nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                        "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                        www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                        enlightenment and power are at.

                        So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                        it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                        you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                        simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                        www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                        GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                        by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                        jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                        Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                        www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                        will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                        with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                        I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                        "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                        original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                        Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                        then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                        is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                        practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                        before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                        Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                        this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                        The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                        Plain and simple.

                        END Please keep reading my response below

                        Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                        What does this satanist mean by what he says

                        King Solomon

                        If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                        U Offline
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                        Uni_Verse
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        As Above, So Below

                        I would be wary of any orginization that says they are right and everyone else is wrong.

                        It is not odd, that they would see the demons "differently." Worshiping them as Gods certainly has an effect on how they view them.

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                        • K Kingsolomon

                          I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                          Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                          from a member, which i excluded his name.

                          here it goes:

                          Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                          involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                          "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                          it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                          VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                          BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                          Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                          Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                          literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                          "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                          WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                          "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                          BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                          A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                          Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                          weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                          into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                          "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                          For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                          enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                          flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                          and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                          www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                          The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                          existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                          angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                          Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                          to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                          recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                          Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                          Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                          kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                          encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                          appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                          afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                          animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                          Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                          of "evil monsters."

                          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                          www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                          www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                          Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                          Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                          into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                          this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                          not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                          Real Demons are free now.

                          To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                          truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                          actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                          FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                          correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                          you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                          then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                          in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                          self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                          evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                          turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                          spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                          them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                          Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                          have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                          get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                          reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                          might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                          some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                          truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                          of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                          Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                          been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                          with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                          feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                          couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                          really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                          By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                          (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                          Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                          Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                          Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                          nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                          "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                          www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                          enlightenment and power are at.

                          So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                          it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                          you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                          simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                          www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                          GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                          by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                          jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                          Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                          www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                          will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                          with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                          I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                          "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                          original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                          Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                          then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                          is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                          practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                          before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                          Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                          this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                          The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                          Plain and simple.

                          END Please keep reading my response below

                          Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                          What does this satanist mean by what he says

                          King Solomon

                          If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                          K Offline
                          K Offline
                          Kingsolomon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          the joy of satan is below me actually

                          there is some people who practice luciferian witchcraft...

                          maybe hillary clinton??

                          but who knows of that organization that systematically abuses children..

                          Theres a whole bunch of them..

                          some say the OTO is evil as well and the Rosicrucians..

                          They even go as so far to say that the Rosicrucians Run the world.. along with Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, and the Freemasons..

                          I belong to 70% of the groups i'm saying here except bohemian grove and bilderberg. I have to be rich and powerful to belong to both of those groups..

                          I agree there is some power with the Rosicrucians and theres Power with the Freemasons. I've found that they both lead to one supreme being. and the OTO does as well..

                          But in these organizations, they all teach you to master your own will, even the masons do. Yeah you might have to acknowledge baphomet by symbols. But one thing about symbols, People put power into a symbol. Without People, a symbol would be nothing.

                          all these dumb ass people like inforwars.com and bilderberg.org. and davidicke.com. Alex Jones, Dr. Stanley Monteith, Tony from Bilderberg.org and David Icke all make money off our stupidity, they say that all these organizations are evil, and that they puport a one world order..

                          The one world order, It might be possible. but even they say the JOY of satan is doing the same thing..

                          Friends, all these organizations are doing to me is Costing me money.

                          If you are proficient at Thelema and Witchcraft, and Rosicrucianism, You can do anything you ever wanted to do. ... You dont need the Joy of Satan to do things..

                          I admit I bought some stuff out of their website, they ripped me off, becuase I already knew the magick and stuff, all they did was talk about runic kabbalah, and egyptian kabbalah.

                          really.. the whole point is your true will. and Ceremonial Magick if you want something or need something..

                          thats the whole point in life with knowledge and conversation with your holy guardian angel in which i'm working on right now.

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                          • K Kingsolomon

                            I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                            Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                            from a member, which i excluded his name.

                            here it goes:

                            Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                            involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                            "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                            it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                            VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                            BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                            Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                            Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                            literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                            "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                            WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                            "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                            BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                            A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                            Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                            weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                            into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                            "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                            For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                            enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                            flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                            and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                            www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                            The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                            existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                            angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                            Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                            to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                            recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                            Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                            Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                            kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                            encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                            appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                            afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                            animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                            Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                            of "evil monsters."

                            www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                            www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                            www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                            Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                            Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                            into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                            this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                            not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                            Real Demons are free now.

                            To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                            truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                            actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                            FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                            correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                            you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                            then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                            in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                            self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                            evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                            turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                            spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                            them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                            www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                            Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                            have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                            get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                            reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                            might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                            some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                            truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                            of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                            Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                            been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                            with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                            feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                            couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                            really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                            By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                            (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                            Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                            Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                            Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                            nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                            "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                            www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                            enlightenment and power are at.

                            So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                            it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                            you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                            simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                            www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                            GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                            by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                            jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                            Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                            www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                            will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                            with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                            I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                            "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                            original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                            Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                            then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                            is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                            practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                            before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                            Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                            this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                            The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                            Plain and simple.

                            END Please keep reading my response below

                            Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                            What does this satanist mean by what he says

                            King Solomon

                            If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                            @nashimiron said

                            "
                            @YHVH said
                            "About left-hand-path "thelemites": I think that the Book of the Law is pretty clear about this (personal oppinion):

                            "I22.
                            Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me. Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof, do ye also thus. Bind nothing! Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.
                            "

                            Isn't this instruction clearly contrary to the objectives of the LHP???"
                            "

                            It's also clearly contrary to other statements written by Crowley, who seemed perfectly happy to cause hurt, so I don't know that I understand your statement.

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                            • K Kingsolomon

                              I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                              Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                              from a member, which i excluded his name.

                              here it goes:

                              Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                              involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                              "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                              it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                              VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                              BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                              Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                              Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                              literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                              "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                              WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                              "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                              BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                              A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                              Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                              weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                              into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                              "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                              For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                              enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                              flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                              and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                              www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                              The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                              existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                              angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                              Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                              to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                              recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                              Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                              Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                              kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                              encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                              appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                              afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                              animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                              Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                              of "evil monsters."

                              www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                              www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                              www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                              Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                              Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                              into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                              this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                              not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                              Real Demons are free now.

                              To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                              truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                              actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                              FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                              correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                              you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                              then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                              in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                              self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                              evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                              turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                              spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                              them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                              www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                              Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                              have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                              get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                              reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                              might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                              some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                              truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                              of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                              Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                              been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                              with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                              feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                              couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                              really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                              By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                              (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                              Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                              Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                              Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                              nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                              "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                              www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                              enlightenment and power are at.

                              So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                              it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                              you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                              simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                              www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                              GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                              by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                              jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                              Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                              www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                              will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                              with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                              I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                              "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                              original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                              Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                              then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                              is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                              practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                              before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                              Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                              this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                              The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                              Plain and simple.

                              END Please keep reading my response below

                              Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                              What does this satanist mean by what he says

                              King Solomon

                              If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                              wrote on last edited by
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                              Something very interesting on the link to the Runes, supposedly the original Kabballah:

                              www.geocities.com/futhark_runes/RunesSecretMeaning.html

                              "Eihwaz, literally referring to a Yew Tree and thereby reminding us of the Tree of Life, represents the Cycle of Life and Death. The Death of the Old Age of the Zodiac, and the Birth of the New Age. "

                              I've mentioned this rune before on this forum, but I think Jim's response was that he just had no interest in it.

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                              • K Kingsolomon

                                I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                here it goes:

                                Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                of "evil monsters."

                                www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                Real Demons are free now.

                                To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                enlightenment and power are at.

                                So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                Plain and simple.

                                END Please keep reading my response below

                                Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                King Solomon

                                If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                                K Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
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                                i'm interested in runic and egyptian kabbalah red fezz,. it's the same as the hebrew kabbalah, but I have to find the names and where they fit in the tree of life and how they fit, and how to vibrate the names you want to vibrate while practicing kabbalah, maybe you might have a resource for me

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                                • K Kingsolomon

                                  I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                  Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                  from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                  here it goes:

                                  Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                  involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                  "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                  it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                  VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                  BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                  Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                  Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                  literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                  "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                  WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                  "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                  BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                  A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                  Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                  weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                  into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                  "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                  For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                  enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                  flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                  and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                  www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                  The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                  existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                  angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                  Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                  to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                  recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                  Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                  Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                  kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                  encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                  appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                  afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                  animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                  Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                  of "evil monsters."

                                  www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                  www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                  www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                  Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                  Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                  into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                  this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                  not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                  Real Demons are free now.

                                  To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                  truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                  actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                  FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                  correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                  you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                  then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                  in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                  self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                  evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                  turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                  spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                  them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                  www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                  Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                  have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                  get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                  reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                  might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                  some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                  truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                  of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                  Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                  been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                  with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                  feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                  couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                  really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                  By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                  (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                  Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                  Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                  Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                  nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                  "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                  www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                  enlightenment and power are at.

                                  So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                  it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                  you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                  simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                  www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                  GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                  by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                  jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                  Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                  www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                  will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                  with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                  I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                  "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                  original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                  Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                  then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                  is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                  practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                  before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                  Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                  this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                  The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                  Plain and simple.

                                  END Please keep reading my response below

                                  Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                  What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                  King Solomon

                                  If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                                  @Kingsolomon said

                                  "i'm interested in runic and egyptian kabbalah red fezz,. it's the same as the hebrew kabbalah, but I have to find the names and where they fit in the tree of life and how they fit, and how to vibrate the names you want to vibrate while practicing kabbalah, maybe you might have a resource for me"

                                  I don't know if there is a runic Kabballah necessarily, but the Joy Of Satan people seem to be saying so. We do know for pretty certain that the Qabalah does come from Egypt prior to the Jewish Kabballah and that the Jews probably got it from the Greeks who got it from Egypt. Interestingly, there were some tradelines that ran through the frozen north part of Europe where there just happens to be runic inscriptions all over the place and a religion which is still being pieced together which is remarkably similar to what we know of the Qabalah. There are some fair differences, though, too: the trees are not identical, for example.

                                  Your best bet would be to check out the YahooGroups. There is one dedicated to the Runes which is full of academics and people to whom the runes are part of their heritage and culture. One woman I met there wrote some ground-breaking book about the runes as an academic (University) text that was about 2.5 inches thick and cost about $100 if I remember correctly. This is the most up-to-date source of accurate information about the Runes that I know of.

                                  I wouldn't take too much stock in what American "rune experts" claim. Apparently, Stephen/Edred is off the mark quite a bit... and he is generally considered one of the foremost experts on the runes in these English-speaking parts. Check out the YahooGroups, but if I was you, I would NOT mention the word "Kabballah." They're likely to politely dismiss your questions as foolish cross-breeding or something.

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                                  • K Kingsolomon

                                    I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                    Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                    from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                    here it goes:

                                    Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                    involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                    "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                    it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                    VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                    BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                    Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                    Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                    literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                    "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                    WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                    "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                    BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                    A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                    Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                    weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                    into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                    "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                    For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                    enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                    flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                    and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                    www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                    The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                    existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                    angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                    Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                    to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                    recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                    Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                    Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                    kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                    encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                    appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                    afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                    animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                    Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                    of "evil monsters."

                                    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                    www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                    www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                    Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                    Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                    into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                    this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                    not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                    Real Demons are free now.

                                    To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                    truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                    actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                    FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                    correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                    you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                    then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                    in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                    self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                    evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                    turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                    spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                    them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                    www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                    Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                    have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                    get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                    reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                    might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                    some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                    truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                    of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                    Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                    been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                    with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                    feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                    couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                    really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                    By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                    (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                    Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                    Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                    Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                    nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                    "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                    www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                    enlightenment and power are at.

                                    So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                    it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                    you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                    simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                    www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                    GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                    by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                    jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                    Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                    www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                    will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                    with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                    I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                    "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                    original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                    Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                    then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                    is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                    practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                    before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                    Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                    this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                    The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                    Plain and simple.

                                    END Please keep reading my response below

                                    Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                    What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                    King Solomon

                                    If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    I understand why Jim would not be interested in that. He already knows the kabbalah.

                                    That Joy of Satan is quite goofed up..

                                    The only legit satanic group I've seen is <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.luciferianwitchcraft.com/main">www.luciferianwitchcraft.com/main</a><!-- w -->

                                    they promote the books of Michael W. Ford. Who.. LOL Ironically was a member of the OTO.

                                    These people.. Thelema is the truest source of all spiritual contact.

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                                    • K Kingsolomon

                                      I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                      Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                      from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                      here it goes:

                                      Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                      involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                      "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                      it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                      VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                      BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                      Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                      Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                      literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                      "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                      WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                      "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                      BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                      A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                      Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                      weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                      into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                      "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                      For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                      enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                      flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                      and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                      www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                      The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                      existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                      angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                      Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                      to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                      recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                      Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                      Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                      kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                      encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                      appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                      afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                      animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                      Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                      of "evil monsters."

                                      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                      www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                      www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                      Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                      Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                      into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                      this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                      not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                      Real Demons are free now.

                                      To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                      truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                      actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                      FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                      correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                      you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                      then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                      in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                      self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                      evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                      turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                      spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                      them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                      www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                      Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                      have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                      get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                      reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                      might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                      some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                      truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                      of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                      Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                      been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                      with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                      feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                      couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                      really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                      By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                      (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                      Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                      Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                      Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                      nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                      "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                      www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                      enlightenment and power are at.

                                      So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                      it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                      you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                      simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                      www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                      GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                      by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                      jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                      Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                      www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                      will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                      with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                      I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                      "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                      original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                      Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                      then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                      is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                      practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                      before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                      Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                      this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                      The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                      Plain and simple.

                                      END Please keep reading my response below

                                      Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                      What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                      King Solomon

                                      If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                                      Yeah, the sort of people often interested in the runes kind of freaks me out. A lot of them seem to be pretty into Nazi ideas. Some, like Stephen Flowers, keep a certain distance, but given the books he's published about the Nazi occult practices, it's hard to believe he's not pro-Nazi.

                                      And what I really don't get about these people is they seem to think they're on the stronger side (side of Satan, that is)... but, like, if that were true, would Satanists be hiding in a closet right now? If Satan was pro-Hitler (as JOS / Black Sun website listed above seems to think), doesn't it say something that Hitler lost? And, according to them, the Jews and their Jewish magick have the world wrapped around their finger! To me, that indicates, if nothing else, that the "Satan" people are on the weaker side, not the stronger side.

                                      The little bit I read about Crowley's interest in Hitler and the little bit I've read about Crowley's readiness and even delight in sadism, dishonesty and violence turned me off quite a bit at the time(s), so I just can't imagine joining a group who's whole ambition in life is to help Satan fight a war against the Jews. Then what??? Everlasting ultimate satisfaction?! I seriously doubt that's possible with a mindset hellbent on war and revenge. If you're into Jew-hating, war and honorable death (in battle), why not just become a nutty terrorist? Seems about as fulfilling. But, no! Of course not! Because those people are semitic! They can only be happy if they are aryan bullies. It's very easy to see how arbitrary and deluded these people are... and, in my opinion, that tends to happen when personification comes into religious ideas of dualism.**

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                                      • K Kingsolomon

                                        I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                        Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                        from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                        here it goes:

                                        Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                        involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                        "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                        it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                        VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                        BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                        Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                        Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                        literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                        "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                        WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                        "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                        BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                        A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                        Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                        weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                        into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                        "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                        For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                        enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                        flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                        and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                        www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                        The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                        existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                        angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                        Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                        to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                        recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                        Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                        Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                        kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                        encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                        appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                        afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                        animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                        Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                        of "evil monsters."

                                        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                        www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                        www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                        Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                        Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                        into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                        this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                        not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                        Real Demons are free now.

                                        To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                        truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                        actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                        FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                        correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                        you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                        then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                        in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                        self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                        evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                        turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                        spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                        them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                        www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                        Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                        have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                        get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                        reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                        might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                        some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                        truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                        of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                        Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                        been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                        with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                        feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                        couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                        really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                        By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                        (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                        Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                        Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                        Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                        nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                        "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                        www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                        enlightenment and power are at.

                                        So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                        it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                        you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                        simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                        www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                        GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                        by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                        jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                        Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                        www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                        will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                        with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                        I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                        "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                        original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                        Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                        then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                        is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                        practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                        before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                        Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                        this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                        The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                        Plain and simple.

                                        END Please keep reading my response below

                                        Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                        What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                        King Solomon

                                        If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

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                                        Kingsolomon
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        Ah yes, I agree Redd Fezz, the only way to become truly knowledgeable, is get ALL the books, and take in what is useful and discard what is useless. But Thelema is really the basis of ALL magick, because it teaches all the fundementals of Jewish magick with is Kabbalah.. Right?

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                                        • K Kingsolomon

                                          I was on a forum and note to me what they said.. I hope this is NOT true..

                                          Of course this comes from joyofsatan.org and the joy of satan Yahoo Webgroup.

                                          from a member, which i excluded his name.

                                          here it goes:

                                          Trust me, anyone that uses the methods for "calling up Demons" that
                                          involves any kind of circles or triangles, "angelic" or those stupid
                                          "god names," uses the "Seal of Solomon," evokes the Demon (daemon as
                                          it's sometimes spelled) and then FUCKING COMMANDS IT INTO A GODDAMN
                                          VESSEL TO CARRY OUT THE BIDDING OF THE "MAGE" WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT
                                          BE SEEING A FUCKING DEMON! It may look like a Demon, but it isn't.
                                          Or at least not one of Satan's, that is.

                                          Some of the ceremonial magickian's are psycho-magickians, both
                                          literally and figuratively. Many believe that Daemons are just the
                                          "demons of one's mind." If that is the case, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU
                                          WANT TO CALL THAT PART OF YOUR MIND INTO A FUCKING TRIANGLE USING THE
                                          "HOLY TETRAGRAMMATON," YOUR WORTHLESS HGA (holy guardian angel) AND
                                          BIND IT INTO A TRIANGLE WHEN *YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP IN
                                          A FUCKING STRAIGHT-JACKET?!!! Fucking losers.

                                          Demons are not "fallen angels." Nor are they "spirits." They
                                          weren't born on Earth or in "heaven" and they were never "cast to or
                                          into the Earth." They are not aspects of ones own mind, archetypes,
                                          "dark matter," "unholy spirits of lies that rebelled against dog."
                                          For one who isn't a jew or one of the Gentiles that are still crazy
                                          enough to follow xianity, SATAN is God! Satan and His Demons are
                                          flesh and blood just like we are, except they have achieved physical
                                          and spiritual perfection and are immortal.

                                          www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

                                          The Demons of the Goetia that were bound by "Solomon" who never even
                                          existed were bound by a bunch of kikes (along with their "heavenly
                                          angels") who themselves claim to be "God."

                                          Right here a book written by an alleged "Satanist/Luciferian" refers
                                          to the 72 Goetic Demons as the "72 spirits of the Shemhamforash" and
                                          recommends commanding Demons/Djinn into urns or vessels "for a time."
                                          Doesn't that sound familiar to the kikes and their copycats "The
                                          Society of Jesus/Jesuits? Some Jesuits among other Christians are
                                          kikes themselves. Furthermore, this "Ceremonial Luciferian"
                                          encourages the mage to use the "Seal of Solomon" and command them to
                                          appear to the mage "peacefully and in a form that is pleasing," and
                                          afterwards, giving a "license to depart peacefully, harming no man nor
                                          animal." Once again buying into the descriptions by the enemies of
                                          Satan and the Original Gods (Demons) which claims them to be some kind
                                          of "evil monsters."

                                          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/shemhamephorash.html
                                          www.666blacksun.com/Temple%5Fof%5FSolomon.html
                                          www.666blacksun.com/YHVH.html

                                          Anyone who uses these methods and thinks that it is actually some
                                          Demon "spirit" appearing within the triangle or even being transferred
                                          into some kind of a "vessel" such as an urn where the mage can watch
                                          this "entity grow" like a fucking Chia pet (an evil bunny wabbit!) is
                                          not only being inexcusably DISRESPECTFUL, but are deluded because the
                                          Real Demons are free now.

                                          To the arrogant assholes that say "PROVE IT!" Okay then. The simple
                                          truth is that if what you are seeing looks like a Demon, it isn't the
                                          actual Demon that you have summoned because if it was.... THEY WOULD
                                          FUCKING RIP YOUR SORRY ASS TO SHREDS!!!! They are not politically
                                          correct and they do not conform to human-based laws or standards. If
                                          you have used this method and they haven't torn you limb from limb,
                                          then that's no fucking Demon. They do NOT excuse arrogant stupidity
                                          in the name of the pseudo "Left Hand Path initiations for
                                          self-deification." If anyone says to this "I thought Demons weren't
                                          evil." They're not, but they don't tolerate stupidity and they do NOT
                                          turn the other cheek. Perhaps that's why some see the "solomonic
                                          spirit" that they've conjured and haven't had the shit scared out of
                                          them or worse. The actual Demons don't waste their time on the weak.

                                          www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

                                          Demons are kind to those who are serious about Satanism. Those that
                                          have went through Satan and summoned a Demon through Him but didn't
                                          get the results they wanted or when they wanted them, then there was a
                                          reason. Satan NEVER accepts a dedication to Him from anyone He knows
                                          might turn their backs on Him due to insolent impatience or for
                                          some other reason which I'm sure is obvious by now. Some of us are
                                          truly "marked by Satan" as in He has placed His Affairs in the hands
                                          of those that He has tried and are in accordance with His Desires.
                                          Others aren't. Those that have been with the Joy of Satan (many have
                                          been here longer than I've been here) for a while and feel comfortable
                                          with Satan's Teachings and those that are new and have a pretty good
                                          feeling should indicate something. [Right now, I'd like to applaud a
                                          couple of members that have been here since spring 2007 and have
                                          really been kicking ass. You know who you are].

                                          By the way, I've studied LaVey's, Crowley's, Spare's, Parson's
                                          (revelation of the whore of babalon), Phil Hine's, Peter J. Carroll's,
                                          Israel Regardie's, Eliphas Levi's, Dion Fortune's, Mathers' R.A.
                                          Wilson's, Joshua Saraphim's, Jason Black's, Christopher S. Hyatt's,
                                          Michael W. Ford's, J Thorps' teachings and the list goes on. So
                                          nobody can tell me that I'm "uneducated" or that I'm not
                                          "well-read." Out of all of these so-called "credible" sources,
                                          www.joyofsatan.com is where the true source and knowledge,
                                          enlightenment and power are at.

                                          So, if you are truly curious about Satan, Demons (the Real Ones) which
                                          it doesn't sound like you're too familiar with, due to the methods
                                          you've mentioned and the "credentials" you've listed, then I have one
                                          simple advice for you and that is to read everything on
                                          www.joyofsatan.com and if you want to know more about how our
                                          GODS- (Demons are Gods, not spirits) have been treated
                                          by kikes and their JEWISH organizations (or have been infiltrated by
                                          jews and their xian copycats) such as the Golden Dawn, Rosy
                                          Crosses or whatever, OTO, etc, then feel free to read
                                          www.666blacksun.com. If you are meant to be a Satanist, you
                                          will see how Thelema and actual Satanism do not coincide
                                          with each other and are not even part of the same family.

                                          I covered more than I meant to and made a simple reply into a long
                                          "sermon," but obviously some of this definitely applies to the
                                          original poster of this thread. If you're really serious about
                                          Satanism and are truly willing to give up all of that ceremonial crap,
                                          then the "horrible name-calling" I gave doesn't apply to you if that
                                          is the case. Regardless, you'll have to decide between Thelemic
                                          practices or true Satanism. There is no Thelemic Satanism. However,
                                          before I dedicated my soul to Satan, I was reading Crowley and the
                                          Order of Nine Angles and the transition was much easier for me, but
                                          this reply will serve as an example for new people to take heed to.

                                          The Joy of Satan is the only Satanism that truly belongs to Satan.
                                          Plain and simple.

                                          END Please keep reading my response below

                                          Are there Satanic Thelemites? I mean Ceremonial Magick works. When you call up Goetic spirits they are the same spirits as the satanist call up, vasaggo is one goetic spirit, bael is one as well, if you call them up, you will get them. How can you not say Thelema is fake, Thelema has no Jewish or hebrew or chiristian orgin.

                                          What does this satanist mean by what he says

                                          King Solomon

                                          If so.. then what we are doing is wrong?

                                          K Offline
                                          K Offline
                                          Kingsolomon
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          have you all ever read and watched videos on hitler and the occult practices.

                                          wewelsburg castle, the black sun, all of which are satanic in some form or another..

                                          another thing to consider that the demons and satan have really ran strong in africa,

                                          Look at the country of africa, Darfur, the diamond trading of the past. The Goetic spirits will not hide the fact that some of them are spirit behind Africas misfortune,

                                          Vassago said to Poke Runyon in the DVD The dark mirror of Magick, that A son of Africa will be slain.. 2 weeks later in early 2001, The President of Congo was murdered by his bodyguard.

                                          And these People are Loyal to these spirits... I mean This is some deep stuff were talking here.

                                          Joy of Satan
                                          The temple of Set
                                          the Church of Lucifer
                                          The Church of Satan
                                          and many others who are opposing the TRUE source of magick.. Thelema..

                                          Wow I could be a Public speaker. Get get peoples attention..

                                          or a preacher who colelcts money and rides off in a 2007 Coupe DeVille.. YES, that is wonderful to think of.

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