Esoteric Titles of Tarot Major & Minor Arcana
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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-h@Herr Sorath said
"where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible"
The easy answer is the Golden Dawn's Book T. A link to the relevant part is here. Confusingly, though, this is section "N" of the Inner Order rituals, and other parts of Book T are in sections O, P, Q, and R.
Its main author must have been Macgregor Mathers, but I don't know to what extent it was "channeled" (via various methods with his wife Moina), or whether some came from an earlier source (Eliphas Levi, possibly?).
Steve
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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-hthnx for the links. I was hoping to trace it back further than GD, but maybe that truly is the first published origin?
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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Herr Sorath:
"where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible "
Crowley wrote 777 in 1912 so it doesn't go back much further than the Golden Dawn. To go back further you'd have to look at the history of tarot from the gypsies of the Mediterranean. Lord of Abundance would be Bacchus, Spirit of the Waters Neptune/Poseidon. Also the Lesser Arcana can readily be found in Astrology. The stars go back as far as we can possibly remember...
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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-hthnx for the insight.
well we certainly know that the Esoteric Titles (as given in 777, with minor changes) date back to the Golden Dawn, yet I'm still curious whether Mathers/Westcott continued a prior tradition's nomenclature, or whether they received them."To go back further you'd have to look at the history of tarot from the gypsies of the Mediterranean. "
Asraiya, do u have any recommendations of texts that successfully venture there?
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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"The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage" translated by Mathers
Not about the history of the tarot fortune telling methods used by gypsies but I think it's what you're looking for as far as the Mathers info..
Aren't you European? You probably know way more than I do about gypsies...
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93,
where do the esoteric titles for Tarot keys (such as XII-The Hanged Man: The Spirit of the Mighty Waters, 3 of Cups: Lord of Abundance, etc) as Crowley gives them in 777 originate? I'd like to be able to trace them back as far as possible
thnx for any insight
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