Gematria/Notariqon/Temurah
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@Nudor said
"Is there a table in 777 somewhere that lists what the Hebrew numbers are for Latin letters? For example L = 30. Or is there a on-line chart somewhere to obtain these attributes?"
No. Crowley didn't know about the Latin Qabalah.
It's been posted many times on this forum. Here's another copy:
A = 1 | N = 12
B = 2 | O = 13
C = 3 | P = 14
D = 4 | Q = 15
E = 5 | R = 16
F = 6 | S = 17
G = 7 | T = 18
H = 8 | V = 19
I = 9 | X = 20
L = 10 | Y = 21
M = 11 | Z = 22 -
@Nudor said
"Thank you. When calculating numeric value (Hebrew) of English letters and there are two sets of numbers, for example, M is 40 and 600, how is counted? As 640?"
No. The 600 is the value of the special form of the letter when it is the final letter in a word. However, the first number is primarily the one used, even for finals, and the larger value is used for finals to give an alternate value with a different layer of meaning.
For example, the word aleph is spelled ALP. The value of Peh is normally 80, but as a final would have the value 800. ALP is normally valued as 1 + 30 + 80 = 111. However, there is another level of meaning to be gotten from the fact that it is also 1 + 30 + 800 = 831.
Until you are solidly on your feet and experienced in gematria, I recommend you ignore the final values.
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In Crowley's work on the Sepher Sephiroth in 777, he writes: "Note that A, I, O, U, H, are really consonants, mere bases for vowels, These vowels are not here given, as they have no importance in Gematria."
Does this mean that when we use the English equivalents of Hebrew letters we do not count the vowels above?
I see that he writes A (Aleph) = 1, I is listed with Y (or J) (Yodh) = 10, O (Ayin) = 70, U listed with V (Vau) = 6, and H (Heh) = 5 so it seems confusing.
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@Nudor said
"In Crowley's work on the Sepher Sephiroth in 777, he writes: "Note that A, I, O, U, H, are really consonants, mere bases for vowels, These vowels are not here given, as they have no importance in Gematria."
Does this mean that when we use the English equivalents of Hebrew letters we do not count the vowels above?"
Minor correction (a personal pet peeve)... Sepher Sephiroth is not in 777. It is, however, in a work with various titles over the years, one of which is *777 & Other Qabalistic Writings.*It's one of the "other Qabalistic writings." 777 and Sepher Sephiroth are quite distinct works, though in recent years it has become epidemic to confuse them. End of sermon.
And on to your actual question: Don't confuse writing something in Hebrew vs. using Hebrew letters as cognates for getting numerical values of English words. For the latter technique, Aleph is an A. But in actual Hebrew, Aleph is a consonant marked by a silent expulsion of breath (to which a non-letter vowel is appended). Different systems, different rules, just the same letters.
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@Nudor said
"When doing so (using Hebrew letters as cognates for getting numerical values of English words) is I (listed with Y) = 10?"
I, J, Y, & hard e's are counted as 10.
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@Nudor said
"One more question, what does it mean when a Hebrew letter is written large?"
A large 'aleph is 1000, a large Beth 2000 and so on. These values are used for ordinary counting; I've not seen them referred to widely in Qabalah.
However, looking up "large aleph, 1000" I see there is a reference in "Sepher Sephiroth".
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Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large?
Jim - about the 777 comment. I understand the Sepher Sephiroth is separate from 777, it was just a habit, and a bad one, to use a shortened expression when referring to the work. (Almost as bad as TXT speak.) So instead of writing 777 and Other Qabalistic writings, I wrote 777. Now that I know it is a pet peeve of yours I'll avoiding doing it with all the books.
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@Nudor said
"Oliver P - I know the value is x 1000 when it is written large, but what does that look like? How do we distinguish when a Hebrew character is written large? "
In a word "differance". You can only see how big it is when you have some "normal-sized" ones to compare it with.
Such is Life
Do we know the characteristics of anything when it's sitting on its own?And yes, the 'a' in "differance" is intentional. See under "Derrida" [makes mental note to look up anything Derrida had to say about Qabalah; there must be something
] Also Foucault, "normalisation" (like "differance" pronounce it as in French).OP
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@Nudor said
"In Gematria, I see there is no English equivalent for F. Is there another letter used for F, or is this ignored? (How do we assign a number value to words with the letter F in their composition?)"
Are you speaking Hebrew? And are you speaking of Hebrew per se, or of using Hebrew letters as a way of representing other words as in English?
In any case, the F sound in Hebrew is the soft Peh (Ph). However, in some contexts, Vav as 6 is used to represent this.
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@Nudor said
"Using Hebrew letters as a way of representing words in English. (I am not YET that proficient in Hebrew.) Would one of those "cases" be an individual's Biblical name by chance?"
Obviously if it's a Hebrew name, spell it in Hebrew.
Either P=80 or V=6 would be the values to use for F. I would lean toward the former except in words that came from clear Latin (and Latin-language) derivation where the F value had already taken root in the "6 slot."