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A little help or suggestion on astral travel

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  • K Kingsolomon

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    I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

    Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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    Jim Eshelman
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    You've been reading too much Kenneth Grant. - No, Crowley didn't start a lodge for that purpose. 🙄

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    • K Kingsolomon

      93 all

      I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

      Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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      Law
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      😊 funny, I have read quite a few of Grants books. Haha. Then how was it that he came upon the portrait of LAM?

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      • K Kingsolomon

        93 all

        I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

        Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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        Jim Eshelman
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        @Law said

        ":oops: funny, I have read quite a few of Grants books. Haha. Then how was it that he came upon the portrait of LAM?"

        It's just a painting. Crowley was a surrealistic painter.

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        • K Kingsolomon

          93 all

          I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

          Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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          Law
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          Well, I guess that puts a stop to my astral journey to the Sirius star system....So I take it Jim you dont have a lot of Grant in your Private collection, then?

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          • K Kingsolomon

            93 all

            I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

            Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

            93 93/93

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            @Law said

            "Well, I guess that puts a stop to my astral journey to the Sirius star system....So I take it Jim you dont have a lot of Grant in your Private collection, then?"

            Oh, I've got plenty. Some of it, in fact, is heavily annotated in the margins with out-and-out mistakes.

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            • K Kingsolomon

              93 all

              I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

              Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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              Law
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              Oh, I've got plenty. Some of it, in fact, is heavily annotated in the margins with out-and-out mistakes."

              which include......what?

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              • K Kingsolomon

                93 all

                I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

                Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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                @Law said

                "
                "Oh, I've got plenty. Some of it, in fact, is heavily annotated in the margins with out-and-out mistakes."
                "

                which include......what?[/quuote
                Answering that would mean going home and pulling several volumes off my shelf and going through them page by page. Not gonna happen! Definitely not worth it.

                I respect Grant in his role of Thelemic enthusiast. I respect him when he talks about history he actually experienced and reports interactions with Crowley and others that he actually knew.

                I most other things, I have no use for anything he's ever written. Most of it is error-saturated, misdirected, and just plain wrong.

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                • K Kingsolomon

                  93 all

                  I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

                  Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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                  Law
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                  So in other words you dont think that he descovered the Tunnels of set, or whatever it is he supposedly proposed in his books? I enjoyed The latest Starfire Journal, and even thought about joining the Typhonian Order, Maybe I'll reconsider......

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                  • K Kingsolomon

                    93 all

                    I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

                    Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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                    Jim Eshelman
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                    @Law said

                    "So in other words you dont think that he descovered the Tunnels of set, or whatever it is he supposedly proposed in his books? I enjoyed The latest Starfire Journal, and even thought about joining the Typhonian Order, Maybe I'll reconsider......"

                    Yeah, that's one of the biggest pieces of shit. - BTW I'm not commenting on his fiction, I've never read any of it. (I mean, I haven't read any of his books that he admitted are fiction.)

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                    • K Kingsolomon

                      93 all

                      I am reading and studying liber O and I keep diligently persevering. Unfortunately, I have been trying to stay still and do everything that Liber O tells me to do about astal travel. But I cannot "get out" I might need some instruction as to project myself into the planes.. Liber O is not enough for me obviously. and this has been 6months in trying to diligently do this..

                      Is something wrong with me? How can I "get out" to the planes

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      @Blythe A. Blanche said

                      "What would be the title of such a person qualified to instruct a person in Astral travel? I've had the same trouble as the OP and know no one personally who would be able to help. Should I be looking for a Yoga instructor or what?"

                      It's probably not a matter of title... but, to give one example, any Zelator of A.'.A.'. should be able to teach this if you have the preliminaries down.

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