Planetary Spirits/Intelligences
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Agape all,
I have begun dabbling in decrypting the Kamea, and understanding sigils and talismans for use as aids to meditation, and naturally I have been led to studying the planetary attributes.
What authors deal with the subject of the natures of planetary Intelligences vs. Spirits most comprehensively?
How have you been led to interpret the differences thereof?
Any elucidation is always appreciated!
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They are very similar. Both are Yetziratic, and fairly mid-range Yetziratic. The Intelligence is superior to the Spirit, which also means that the Spirit is of a denser (closer to Assiah) level.
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My aim specifically is to formulate a talisman to aid in effectively the formulation of mind as "lead". So theoretically the Spirit aspect of Saturn would be more conducive to this, as it is, as you term, denser and therefore closer to a material character?
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@Embryon De L'Abîme said
"My aim specifically is to formulate a talisman to aid in effectively the formulation of mind as "lead". So theoretically the Spirit aspect of Saturn would be more conducive to this, as it is, as you term, denser and therefore closer to a material character?"
That seems a correct analysis.
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@RifRaf said
"I have always been somewhat under the impression that Spirit is more "superior" than Intelligence, as it seems to be with Humans."
According to my studies, this is really a matter of context. Consider Elemental Spirits, which perform their function regardless of more "complex" and human intricacies. It would seem this would apply to Planetary forces as well, where the Intelligence represents a guiding and adaptable entity, and the Spirit is simply bound to its nature and "duty". I think this is what Regardie is referencing when he claims use of solely the Spirit to be dangerous unless accompanied by the Intelligence, especially for students, as there is no reconciling and "Intelligent" force to intervene in the rather blind will of the Spirit.
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Why does Luna have a "Spirit of Spirits" and "Intelligence of Intelligences", besides a Spirit? Should I work only with Chashmodai or with Shad Barschemoth Ha-Schartathan? I can't get why Luna is different.
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@Frater S.R. said
"Why does Luna have a "Spirit of Spirits" and "Intelligence of Intelligences", besides a Spirit? Should I work only with Chashmodai or with Shad Barschemoth Ha-Schartathan? I can't get why Luna is different."
Oh, I dunno that I have a good reason for that. (And the one I would come up with would be tedious, historical, etc. rather than pragramatic.)
If you're working with Luna at the sub-angelic, non-Q'lippothic Yetziratic level, the Intelligence would be the primary connection, and that would be Malkah ha-Tarshishim A'ad be-Ruachb Sakharim (she's a mouthful!). Below that, the primary connection would be the spirit Chasmodai (for most work).
Shad bar-Shimath ha-Sharthathan in theory would a slightly denser layer; but, as you indicate, interesting querstions are raised. The name is lunar in that it ties into the numerical values on the lunar Kamea (it totals to 3,321, if Nun-final is irregularly valued at 700). But the name literally means, "Destruction, Son of Shimath, Chief of the Howling Ones." (Shimath is a proper name, meaning "what is announced.") This sounds like a name that commands dominion over Q'lippothic or Goetic forces. If truly lunar, then this is consistent with the idea that it is a name below Chasmodai and right at the threshold of what we might call the aversity threshold.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Malkah ha-Tarshishim A'ad be-Ruachb Sakharim (she's a mouthful!). Below that, the primary connection would be the spirit Chasmodai (for most work)."
the length of this name has always caught my eye, with regards to the possibly of creating a telesmatic image from the attributions of the letters. the resulting image would surely be very detailed and ornate, in contrast with the other planetary intelligences, whose names only give one between five and eight letters to work with.
i am pondering whether or not this might because a rich resource of potential visual imagination is distinctly lunar quality (yesod as the treasurehouse of images...).
likewise, it strikes me to as to why it is only the moon which has this extra name, this spirit of the spirits. i wonder if the moon has this being at the aversity threshold due to the association of the moon with the subconscious, and as such perhaps the natural gate to the dark depths...
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Something like that rings true. yes.
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@Embryon De L'Abîme said
"Agape all,
What authors deal with the subject of the natures of planetary Intelligences vs. Spirits most comprehensively?"
Franz Bardon's Practice of Magical Evocation deals with this to a certain extent, although I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're looking for.