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Bornless Ritual

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    Kraven
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    93,

    During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

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      93,

      During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

      93, 93/93

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      Kraven
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      @Iugum said

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      @Kraven said
      "93,

      During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also,
      93, 93/93"

      Have you read the Scholion, it its entirety, in Liber Samekh? It explains, better than anything else can, what is happening, why it is happening and it also helps immensely in practical matters.

      "I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?
      "

      I assume that you meant barbarous names, and not barbaric? I'm not nit picking here, just trying to fully follow you and (if you did mean barbarous) to clear up the language in order to help and/or direct future help."

      Hah, yes, I meant barbarous. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction..

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        93,

        During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

        93, 93/93

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        TheSilent1
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        @Kraven said

        "93,

        During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

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        If you are meaning to learn this ceremony to perform goetia you would be better of learning another temple opening such as The Opening by Watchtower, The SIRP, The Heptameron, or Liber Reguli.

        If you want to learn "the Bornless One" for initiatory purposes then you should read liber samekh

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          93,

          During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

          93, 93/93

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          sethur
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          Just a reminder - the rituals of the old time are black.

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            93,

            During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

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            Takamba
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            @sethur said

            "Just a reminder - the rituals of the old time are black."

            Let me remind you...

            "Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet! Then shall this Knowledge go aright. "

            Liber Samekh is one such purged. Not everything is simply black and white.

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            • K Kraven

              93,

              During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

              93, 93/93

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              frateruranus
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              Even then, it depends on your level of initiation in the system of the A.'.A.'. Pay attention to the syllabus of the grades. Until one is a Neophyte, some things just don't apply because until one become Ra Hoor Khuit, one is STILL Osiris. Osiris is a black god doesn't mean the formula is dead, evil etc. just not the main point of initiation anymore.

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                93,

                During the Preliminary Invocation what role do the Elemental kings play? In the rubric their sigils and names are given at each of the quarters. What are you supposed to be doing here? Also, I'm assuming the barbaric words are to be memorized (difficult making the grade signs and reading from a notebook at once)?

                93, 93/93

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                Jim Eshelman
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                @frateruranus said

                "Even then, it depends on your level of initiation in the system of the A.'.A.'. Pay attention to the syllabus of the grades. Until one is a Neophyte, some things just don't apply because until one become Ra Hoor Khuit, one is STILL Osiris. Osiris is a black god doesn't mean the formula is dead, evil etc. just not the main point of initiation anymore."

                Based on your premise, I think you must have meant "Zelator," since one is most definitely sealed as Osiris in Neophyte.

                It's a First Order/Second Order thing: 1=10 vs. 2=9.

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