Adding "Aiwass" to the Qabalistic Cross
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The topic is pretty self-explanatory. What are your views about adding "Aiwass" (or anything for that matter) in between the Atah and Malkuth in the Qabalistic Cross? I presume the added word/phrase is centered around the heart based on various forms of the LBRP/LIRP that I've seen online (I presume orders have their own unpublished variants but I obviously can't get knowledge of them at this time
).I personally started vibrating Aiwass (as a stand-in for the HGA) because it seemed to add subtle but distinct feeling of power/effectiveness to the ritual.
Does anyone vibrate anything else there, or want to talk about experiences with vibrating Aiwass? I've thought of vibrating Adonai or RHK there but haven't experimented yet.
A secondary question you may address if you feel like it, while I'm here (I feel bad making so many LBRP topics when there are already tons of them, and I have indeed read 95% of them): The hexagram at the end of the ritual - how do you visualize it? The only way I've found that actually works spontaneously is a single hexagram floating above my head, bottom point nearly touching the crown of my head (and even that feels pretty forced compared to, say, the pentagrams or the evocation of the Archangels). I've tried a pair of hexagrams as a floor and ceiling, one within me, one on my chest, etc, and they all feel fairly forced. Anyone have suggestions based on personal experience?
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@Ash said
"The topic is pretty self-explanatory. What are your views about adding "Aiwass" (or anything for that matter) in between the Atah and Malkuth in the Qabalistic Cross?"
It has been a standard in my practice for 30 years and I'd feel thrown off balance not to include it. It links and anchors the rest.
"Does anyone vibrate anything else there, or want to talk about experiences with vibrating Aiwass? I've thought of vibrating Adonai or RHK there but haven't experimented yet."
If you know the name of your HGA, and are alone, then it is appropriate to substitute that name for Aiwass.
But, as a generic - as something to share in a group context with others, and something to inform your own work in your pre-adept days - Aiwass is the name of the medium that conveyed Liber Legis to humanity. His name is 93 and 418. Therefore, his name is a formula of Thelema and the Great Work in this Aeon per se.
"The hexagram at the end of the ritual - how do you visualize it? The only way I've found that actually works spontaneously is a single hexagram floating above my head, bottom point nearly touching the crown of my head (and even that feels pretty forced compared to, say, the pentagrams or the evocation of the Archangels). I've tried a pair of hexagrams as a floor and ceiling, one within me, one on my chest, etc, and they all feel fairly forced. Anyone have suggestions based on personal experience?"
Try this trick that one learns from such disciplines as acupressure: Touch one point on a table or wall in front of you (with, say, the left index finger). Place the whole of your attention in that point. Now touch another point with the right index. Place the whole of your attention in this other point instead. Finally, touch both points and put the whole of your attention in both points simultaneously.
This last step will have an effect. It will "reposition you" in a way that you have to experience to get.
Having gotten that effect, notice that when you invoke the archangels, and especially on the words "about me flames the pentagram," place the whole of your attention in the four directions at once. When you do this, something will happen. (It's more useful if nobody tells you what this is.) Having experienced THAT, you probably will have your answer.
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I've been vibrating Aiwass for a while now but I'm starting to have doubts about it. I'm concerned it's obscuring the progression from the 4 arms of the cross to the 5 points of the pentagram, which seems to me to be an important aspect of the ritual.
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@Ash said
"Does anyone vibrate anything else there ...? I've thought of vibrating Adonai or RHK ...."
I do not know the name of my HGA, but there is a name I use for it, and I vibrate that in the Qabalistic Cross. It's a generic name (like Adonai) and it feels right enough to me.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Having gotten that effect, notice that when you invoke the archangels, and especially on the words "about me flames the pentagram," place the whole of your attention in the four directions at once. When you do this, something will happen. (It's more useful if nobody tells you what this is.) Having experienced THAT, you probably will have your answer."
Thank you, I shall indeed try this tonight
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@Ash said
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Having gotten that effect, notice that when you invoke the archangels, and especially on the words "about me flames the pentagram," place the whole of your attention in the four directions at once. When you do this, something will happen. (It's more useful if nobody tells you what this is.) Having experienced THAT, you probably will have your answer."
Thank you, I shall indeed try this tonight
"hmmmm, ya i'm gonna have to give it a shot also
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Jim, would it be inappropriate to post results for discussion from trying this method? I ask because I benefitted from going into the experiment without an idea of what was supposed to happen, but at the same time I kinda wanna discuss what happened so I can get feedback
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Not inappropriate at all. Experimentation and results are useful to share.
I just have to chuckle whenever this topic comes up, though (and it comes up often). People seem to have enormous trouble with including the Sacred Name that represents the entire flow of the Thelemic current to humanity.
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Ok so basically: I did the acu-pressure experiment you suggested, and almost immediately I felt a merging/union of the two points. I'm not sure if this is what was supposed to happen, but it makes sense when I try to wrap my head around it... mostly. It was rather surprising though, I must say.
I tried this with the 4 archangels, after all of them were around me, and they seemed to do the same - they were all "distinct" but it seemed like there was no "separation" between them, or between them and myself; we all just "were," and position apparently ceased to matter or make sense. I tried this with all four directions as I said "about me flames the Pentagram" and I noticed a more profound "union" between the four directions, which were all distinct but not "separate." The hexagram, then, simply "was," as its "location" was basically irrelevant.
I was very surprised by this and the first thing I thought was "wow, this matches Jim's description of Briah, where there is distinction but no separation," and I have to wonder if perhaps this was a glimpse into the nature of Briah, from Yetzirah (or something?).
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This is very good! Call it success.
There is more to get and (at the risk of confusing you) it is simpler and more elegant than what you have gotten so far. Be patient. And don't worry, you're already doing very well. Give it a few weeks if necessary. But you're on a roll.
(Not a bad trick, eh?)
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I have had similar experiences though ( I think) with the 'accupuncture' technique Jim mentioned.
I was looking through my BOS today reflecting a bit on my first months daily practices entries, and on 2 separate occasions, near the end of the LBRP at "About me flames the pentagram" I put my attention on all four pentagrams, flaming with energy, and both times it felt like i was in the apex of an equal armed cross, not only did i see it in my mind like a crossrode of blue energy with me in the middle, but felt a sort of magnetism from all quarters? and a simple feeling of union.
Another time when i focused on all the pentagrams flaming, i saw (and slitley felt it too) in my mind rays of like coming from the pentagrams, and rays of colors inbetween those rays and inbetween the quarter points, shooting up like travleing up a sphere to the top center, where my head was.
I also tried vibrating AIWAS in the Q.C. It added a sense of self for me at that moment, a nice simple feeling.
I was wandering if the experiences i have had fit into the discription of the world of Briah, as i'm not very skilled in matching experiences with worlds or other states of consciousness. -
@Alias55A said
"I was wandering if the experiences i have had fit into the discription of the world of Briah, as i'm not very skilled in matching experiences with worlds or other states of consciousness."
No. They're spatial. Yetzirah using the framekwork of Assiah.
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Alias55A said
"I was wandering if the experiences i have had fit into the discription of the world of Briah, as i'm not very skilled in matching experiences with worlds or other states of consciousness."No. They're spatial. Yetzirah using the framekwork of Assiah."
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Your description of the experience is spatial or positional. You described something happening in space with spatial or positional coordination and relationship. That's not Briatic.
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@Jim Eshelman said
"Your description of the experience is spatial or positional. You described something happening in space with spatial or positional coordination and relationship. That's not Briatic."
ok lol, i get what your saying: In Israel Regardie's A Garden of Pomegranate's(which i finally bought) he describes the astral forces of the formative world of Yetzirah to be clothed in a design or model of electric and magnetic matter. I'm guessing the 'magnetic' type feeling I got was simply astral. Thnx Jim
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I have begun to try this, and what happens is that my eyes unfocus and it feels like I'm looking in all four directions at once, seeing all of the pentagrams, including the one behind me. I need to practice it more but am I on the right track?
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I was reading this topic, and wondered; wouldn't it actually be wrong to use Aiwass in this ritual?
I refer you to Liber AL, Chapter II, verse 8. Aiwass explains that He is the worshipper and is identified with Heru-pa-kraath and to worship Him is to do ill.
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@Frater Pramudita said
"I was reading this topic, and wondered; wouldn't it actually be wrong to use Aiwass in this ritual?
I refer you to Liber AL, Chapter II, verse 8. Aiwass explains that He is the worshipper and is identified with Heru-pa-kraath and to worship Him is to do ill."
That passage is attributed to Hadit. Aiwass is just the messenger.
The instruction to add Aiwass to the ritual comes directly from Crowley BTW.