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  • D DavidH

    What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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    @Jim Eshelman said

    "Another way to put it: "Lust of result" is essentially the same as "anxiety about result."

    Don't be anxious about the outcome. Make your commitment to the universe concerning it, back it with your desire force, but don't be anxious about the outcome."

    LOL! That makes perfect sense to people of my sort with anxiety problems!!! I love plain and simple laymen English. 😀

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    • D DavidH

      What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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      When your intention is pure the desired result becomes the natural outcome.

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      • D DavidH

        What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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        Avshalom Binyamin
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        What is pure intention?

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        • D DavidH

          What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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          A persons intent is pure when the action taken is in itself the desired result.

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          • D DavidH

            What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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            Avshalom Binyamin
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            I'm having a hard time understanding this. Can you please put this in a real world example?

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            • D DavidH

              What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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              I will offer you this, do not take it as a literal or moral statement, I am merely drawing a distinction:

              Instance one:
              You see a woman, she looks interesting, you want to know more, you strike up a conversation.

              Instance two:
              You see a woman, she looks interesting, you want to have sex with her, you strike up a conversation.

              In the first instance, the intent is 'pure,' the conversation bringing about the desired result to know more.

              In the second instance, the intent is not 'pure' as the conversation is merely a means to an end.

              If I think of something better, I will let you know 😄

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              • D DavidH

                What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                Avshalom Binyamin
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                Thanks, that helps. I thought that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding.

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                • D DavidH

                  What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                  I tend to see that as "The journey is just as, or more important than the destination"

                  With "Lust of Result" one's focus is only on finishing the course (which, as Frater Aster Lux put it, won't matter in the very end).

                  Without this, one can fully experience the journey along the way, and probably a more fulfilling experience.

                  Another way to put it might be the act of sex: don't rush for the end result, take your time and enjoy the moment!

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                  • D DavidH

                    What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                    I have to disagree with your example, Uni_Verse. Striking up a conversation with someone because you want sex with them is not impure, it's just social play. Caring about whether you succeed is impure, that's the lust of result, but unassuaged means never satisfied, always having purpose, not having no purpose.

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                    • D DavidH

                      What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                      @sethur said

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                      I have to disagree with your example, Uni_Verse.
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                      I agree.

                      I was attempting to convey something, not directly state it.

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                      • D DavidH

                        What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                        Avshalom Binyamin
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                        And it helped me understand what you were saying. And at it's fundamental core it agrees with what others in this thread have said.

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                        • D DavidH

                          What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                          David

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                          @Uni_Verse said

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                          I have to disagree with your example, Uni_Verse.
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                          I agree.

                          I was attempting to convey something, not directly state it."

                          I understand Uni_Verse's example, if you don't mind me elaborating on what I concluded with:

                          The first one had an intention of how the conversation was going to end up with creates lust of result. The second one didn't have a desire of an outcome, lust of result,

                          To me, I find that lust of result is more of an expected outcome of a situation, instead of having trust that the universe will play out and unfold the next step towards what you want.

                          By declaring that you want to have sex with the woman (I'm just going off of the example, not stating that wanting sex is impure) you have created lust of result because you are concocting the where part of the conversation. Whereas if you followed the second example, and decided a vague request but are not being anxious over the how-factor, you will have an easier time.

                          I hope my idea was easy to follow 😄

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                          • D DavidH

                            What does it mean when said that one should not have lust of result? Isn't most everything we do based on a result we want? If we want health and do a ritual to help improve health, how do we get away from wanting that result? Or does it mean something other than that?

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                            Soror Puella Lucis
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                            Have a general purpose, but do not make it an exercise in fulfilling said purpose. The more you think/care about fulfilling said purpose, the more likely you are to suffer from 'lust of result.'

                            I've decided to care, but not care. Whatever may happen, I just record in my magickal diary and move on.

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