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    From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
    Kether=White
    Daath=Grey
    Tiphareth=Yellow
    Yesod=Purple
    Malkuth=Black/Green

    Looking at this table:
    www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

    This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

    Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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    Danica
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    why grey for Daath and not lavender, as Regardie suggested?

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      From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
      Kether=White
      Daath=Grey
      Tiphareth=Yellow
      Yesod=Purple
      Malkuth=Black/Green

      Looking at this table:
      www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

      This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

      Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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      gmugmble
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      In The Art of True Healing, Regardie gives white, lavender, red, blue, and russet. This doesn't correspond to any color scale I know of. (Since the top three suggested the King Scale colors of brilliant white, lavender, and rose-red to me, I have been using the King Scale colors for all five spheres. Maybe that was a mistake.) IIRC, the ritual doesn't originate with Regardie anyway but with the GD. Can someone find out what colors were originally taught by the GD?

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        From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
        Kether=White
        Daath=Grey
        Tiphareth=Yellow
        Yesod=Purple
        Malkuth=Black/Green

        Looking at this table:
        www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

        This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

        Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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        JNV33
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        Regardie is using elemental attributions, including spirit (white).

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          From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
          Kether=White
          Daath=Grey
          Tiphareth=Yellow
          Yesod=Purple
          Malkuth=Black/Green

          Looking at this table:
          www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

          This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

          Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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          Alias55A
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          I use white, light blue, golden yellow, purple, and green. I dont know if under a certain color scheme, but I think I got the light blue from Kraig's MM or Regardies MP.

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            From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
            Kether=White
            Daath=Grey
            Tiphareth=Yellow
            Yesod=Purple
            Malkuth=Black/Green

            Looking at this table:
            www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

            This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

            Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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            Jim Eshelman
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            @danica said

            "why grey for Daath and not lavender, as Regardie suggested?"

            All of the other colors are Queen Scale, as is the most common representation of the Sephiroth. Lavender, in contrast, is the King Scale color for Da'ath. The Queen Scale color is gray-white.

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              From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
              Kether=White
              Daath=Grey
              Tiphareth=Yellow
              Yesod=Purple
              Malkuth=Black/Green

              Looking at this table:
              www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

              This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

              Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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              Jim Eshelman
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              @gmugmble said

              "In The Art of True Healing, Regardie gives white, lavender, red, blue, and russet. This doesn't correspond to any color scale I know of. (Since the top three suggested the King Scale colors of brilliant white, lavender, and rose-red to me, I have been using the King Scale colors for all five spheres. Maybe that was a mistake.) IIRC, the ritual doesn't originate with Regardie anyway but with the GD. Can someone find out what colors were originally taught by the GD?"

              Actually, the ritual as a ritual originated with Regardie. At least, I haven't been able to find it in any source GD documents (please correct me if you know otherwise). There were vague hints in a Portal paper about a broader formula, but it had never developed into the ritual we know.

              Regardless (no pun intended 👿 ), I've always thought of The Art of True Healing as rather outside the scope of other writings on ths subject. It's been a long time since I've read it, but I recall thinking that the colors there were more customized to the particular task of that one book (with a stronger focus on the Elements); and the MP was an evolving, emerging work. (Can you easily look up for me the following: Was The Art of True Healing originally published before or after The Middle Pillar?)

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                From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
                Kether=White
                Daath=Grey
                Tiphareth=Yellow
                Yesod=Purple
                Malkuth=Black/Green

                Looking at this table:
                www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

                This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

                Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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                RegentLynx
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                Yes, "The Art of True Healing" was originally published (1932) before "The Middle Pillar" (1938).

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                  From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
                  Kether=White
                  Daath=Grey
                  Tiphareth=Yellow
                  Yesod=Purple
                  Malkuth=Black/Green

                  Looking at this table:
                  www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

                  This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

                  Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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                  Jim Eshelman
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                  @RegentLynx said

                  "Yes, "The Art of True Healing" was originally published (1932) before "The Middle Pillar" (1938)."

                  Thanks. I think it was his earliest articulation of the ritual in print, so it was clearly an "emerging" or "in development" creation.

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                    From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
                    Kether=White
                    Daath=Grey
                    Tiphareth=Yellow
                    Yesod=Purple
                    Malkuth=Black/Green

                    Looking at this table:
                    www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

                    This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

                    Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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                    gmugmble
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                    So what colors are given in MP? (I no longer own a copy.)

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                      From what I understand we are supposed to visualize
                      Kether=White
                      Daath=Grey
                      Tiphareth=Yellow
                      Yesod=Purple
                      Malkuth=Black/Green

                      Looking at this table:
                      www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/TreeofLifeColors.htm

                      This set of colors resemble most closely the Queen Scale. I can't seem to find any Scale that matches those colors exactly. Are these the correct colors to be visualizing? How are these colors supposed to relate?

                      Also, I'd imagine a probationer like myself would probably need to start at the Prince or Princess scale? What do you think? I've been doing the MP for about a year now. This color issue only recently surfaced.

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                      Jim Eshelman
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                      @gmugmble said

                      "So what colors are given in MP? (I no longer own a copy.)"

                      Just flipping through, I'm reminded what an extraordinary book it is. I haven't read it in decades, and should correct that in the near future, once I get the current big project done.

                      Flipping through, I don't see a place where he gives a step-by-step of the ritual, but he does provide a color table of the Sephiroth. Sure 'nuff, they are the standard Queen Scale colors except that he erroneously has "lavender-blue" for Da'ath. From this table, he lists:

                      Kether - White
                      Da'ath - Lavender-blue
                      Tiphereth - Gold
                      Yesod - Puce
                      Malkuth - Mixed colors

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