Accepting the Law of Thelema
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I accepted it consciously a few years ago. But there are parts of me that still buck at the simple notion... and my work at this time is to get them to swear allegiance, one at a time...
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Froclown, as I am not prone to assume you are ignorant, my first desire was to just ignore your comments seeming to mistake The Book of the Law for the Law itself (much like only seeing the Master's finger when he tries to point you to the moon). But perhaps you are ignorant of what is meant by "The Law of Thelema." Since you don't seem to understand what "shall be the whole of the Law" means, I offer you this link:
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93,
I would like to say yes. I have on one level, and yet on another.... It is something I have to work out on my own. Intellectually I've given myself over. Spiritually, maybe even a little mentally, I still struggle with some of it. Guess that is part of the walk, no?
939393
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@Jim Eshelman said
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@Takamba said
"What I'm wondering with this thread is to ask the members of this forum if you have or have not yet accepted The Law of Thelema as your guiding principle in life."Yes. Long ago."
Yes. Of course. And it is greatly appreciated.
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@FiliusBestia said
"93,
I would like to say yes. I have on one level, and yet on another.... It is something I have to work out on my own. Intellectually I've given myself over. Spiritually, maybe even a little mentally, I still struggle with some of it. Guess that is part of the walk, no?
939393"
As a colleague of mine often said, "keep doing what you're doing."
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I don't really remember when I accepted the Law, or if I actually did this consciously. I slowly slipped into it over the past year without realizing it. I guess I took for granted an actual declaration of my acceptance.
It feels so familiar to me I never thought to formally declare it - it's like such a "return home" of sorts that it's hard to vocalize.
Of course, there are many aspects of my conscious and subconscious that throw a wall up and try to keep the Light out, but they are being dealt with - hardly.
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I 'accepted' it - recognized it immediately as the Truth would better describe the experience - when I firs read Liber L, 6 or 7 years ago (not quite sure!!, would have to search the diaries).this sole recognition initiated series of changes in my personality and 'outer' circumstances of life.
but it was only recently - during the last six months - that I started to openly declare myself as a Thelemite. I thought previously that not doing so had been because of not wanting to put a label on myself, but actually it was out of fear of social nonacceptance. it was necessary for me to grow emotionally stronger and more independent to realize that.
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I have a dear friend who has no interest in Thelema. I gave her a copy of the Book of the Law once; she read the first chapter, said a few polite words, and hasn't touched it since. But she's led the most "thelemic" life of anyone I know, struggling again and again to find the means to do her will in the face of an environment that has pointedly tried to stop her and to indoctrinate her in the belief that she is not capable or worthy of doing her will, or that she shouldn't because it will hurt someone. Without any instruction but her own inner guidance she has consistently prevailed against this, for which she has my greatest admiration.
I don't think it's a matter of accepting the law of Thelema, but of doing it. (The first word of the law is "Do".)
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I imagine a world where the Law of Thelema holds sway, and most people still think that Crowley was a sicko.
Sometimes, I wonder if Crowley's reputation were a gift to future masses, saving them from yet another aeon where they have yet another demigod to look up to...
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Yes!
After first reading of The Book Of The Law, which for awhile knew I had to at least read but avoided with disgust, fear, dread, and worry of unleashing all the hounds of hell into my living room. After reading, I was stunned and thought, "What have I done"! I was physically sick. He is the Wickedest Man on Earth! Chapter 3 got me.
I persisted with the guidance from the HGA.
In 1997 I took an Oath and swore that it would be my sole rule of life with no turning back. From that day until now, I am sure I have failed every single day in living up to that oath, but I continue to persist in the right understanding and application of the Law of Thelema.
Thanks for asking. This forum helps a great deal in better understanding. Thanks, All!
Marc
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I first read Liber legis in about 1998-2000, i forget exactly, it struck an instant chord, but I still had a lot of crap in my head to get out.
so far I have found that ignoring its message brings suffering, usually in the form of trying too hard to please other people or fit in to their expectations, and usually failing when my internal nature makes itself felt.
I fully accepted the Law, cutting off all that went against it only a few months ago, and for want of A better way of putting it, finally really alive after 30 years of half hearted living. -
I still say
Had! the manifestation of Nuit
is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.HAD!
the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
This is a commentary upon HAD!
The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of NuitThat is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.
Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.
HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on.
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93,
Froclown wrote:"Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text. "
Then why does the Book say " Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law? That is, doing one's Will is the entirety of the Law of Thelema? The rest of the Book is sublime explication.
93 93/93,
Edward
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@Froclown said
"I still say
Had! the manifestation of Nuit
is the first words in the Law of Thelema. Since the law does not refer to some subset of the words but to the entire text.HAD!
the particular the individual point perspective. The exclamation indicates that it stands alone, Exclaming it's own existence.Then the other part "The manifestation of Nuit"
This is a commentary upon HAD!
The self proclaiming it's own existence, (Being formulating Dasein) is in fact the manifestation of NuitThat is the kinetic activation of the infinite potential. The finite concentration and expression of the infinite.
Thus is the beginning of the LAW. Where the WILL first comes into Being.
HAD! child of the cosmic womb fist opens it's eye and the world manifests. The Khabs becomes enveloped in the Khu from this point on."
Then I say you are making an error. Nuit was speaking those words in the Book of the Law ("This that thou writest is the threefold book of Law.") Therefore, since She didn't say (nor did Aiwass relate) "This that thou writest is the Law," we know "HAD" is not a word of the Law but a word about the Law. Then later She says, "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt." And later still Aiwass relates from Her, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. "
The W H O L E of the Law.
"The word of the Law is THELEMA"
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If I write a book of laws, then all the words in that book are the laws, and stipulations of those laws.
One does not take say the 10,000 page "Obamacare" health bill, and claim that the law is only 11 words taken out of the middle of it. The Law is the entire Bill voted into active enforcement.
The WHOLE of the law, mean the law when taken in total, the general scheme of it, the ideal behind which all the verses are driving at.
The Word of the LAW is Thelema. the word of the Aeon in "ABRA-HAD-ABRA"
Again HAD! is the WILL it is the dynamic self, The GOING itself is Hadit.
Thus just as the entire law is summed up in "Do what thou Wilt"
it is also summed up in "HAD!"
The rest is just elaboration.