question regarding vibration in pentagram + hexagram rituals

anthrax44

in liber o, the process of vibration involves the sign of the enterer and the sign of silence. however, with the regards to the vibration of god names in the pentagram and hexagram rituals, some do not use the these signs but rather point to the centre of the pentagram / hexagram and intone the name instead.
which is correct? and if the latter way - not using the signs of the enterer and of silence - is correct, would including the signs of the enterer and silence negatively influence the efficacy of the ritual?

many thanks.

Jim Eshelman

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@anthrax44 said

"in liber o, the process of vibration involves the sign of the enterer and the sign of silence. however, with the regards to the vibration of god names in the pentagram and hexagram rituals, some do not use the these signs but rather point to the centre of the pentagram / hexagram and intone the name instead.
which is correct? and if the latter way - not using the signs of the enterer and of silence - is correct, would including the signs of the enterer and silence negatively influence the efficacy of the ritual?"

That first method you mentioned is for use of vibrating Divine Names - for the purpose of identifying yourself (often in conjunction with the assumption of God-forms) with a particular divine idea. Though one can use it in the Pentagram Ritual etc., it isn't what's normally taught or recommended. For those contexts, simply touching the center of the drawn figure with your implement and resonantly intoning the Divine Name is what's normally intended. (There are other tricks, but that's the basic point.)

bdc

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Jim Eshelman

@bdc said

"something's not right here, the first post here is a carbon copy of a thread i started on here last may:
<a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.heruraha.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7393&p=47549#p47549">viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7393&p=47549#p47549</a>
i'm presuming this is a new type of automated spamming..."

Thank you. That helps me a lot in my filtering. I'll watch for more of this.