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It has an ominous look to the stone in the middle. Was this picture taken before the spirit was transferred and released?
-or- maybe I am seeing the previous effects of the spirit upon the angle/look of the glass over time.Very strange, I cannot find a reference for either word you mentioned in any of my Crowley sources in Libers, Books, even rare poetry. I've got search engines, and all of my Crowley stuff is in pdf, txt or html form, so I can go through millions of documents in a few seconds due to the index of my files.
Let us know if you still cannot find reference to the name. Maybe it was the spiritual name of the fellow she trapped in the stone by "tragic circumstances."
I'm sorry to say, but when you hear those two words dealing with any sort of Real Magick, it could mean almost anthing...
She could have made a pact with some powerful magician upon his death bed, and him wanting to live on in power and magick, bestowed all of his good powers and spirit unto her through the necklace-0r-
He cheated on her one night, then he planned to run away with his mistress. She found out, and had the demons of the dusk to betray and murder both of them. In the course of the events, she trapped his soul in the center stone where it's spiritual stress and power would be used for various forms of Magick.
Just saying you never know. Be careful, and be very sure of yourself when doing anything.
I hope someone was at least entertained by my above paragraphs.
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Well that is some information to find out.
Well, depending on the quality of the glass and metal, it may not be a "cheap" anything, or even an imitation. If the artist crafted that with quality and good intent, and she used it with power and feeling, then it wouldn't have mattered much how old it was.
What kind of metal is it made from?
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I looked at it and my first thought was that it didn't look like an antique, in fact the metal looks like its molded rather than made by hand, they probably had a whole production line of these with different stones inset.
Here's one remarkably similar: www.flickr.com/photos/kotomi-jewelry/4874044988
And here is their website, so they are still in business: www.pastandpresentjewelry.com/miracle.html
Some of the jewelry is actually quite nice.
So whats the thing about the spirit living in the stone?
Mystery solved.
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Well Dar, apparently the spirit had never read about Crowley's Lucifer(i) Liber 75, commanding his chosen ones, as well as the entire world, to delight in true beauty, in contest.
He should have minded his manners.
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You are right on that. I mean you pick up the obvious psychological start because of the title,
then you see who "He" really is.. a Lord of Light, and a Bringer of Justice, one who balances reality.
(Sun in the South comes to mind for some reason. Balancing out the day, as well as heralding the new ones. Venus/Lucifer/Spiral Light/etc..)
Venus=Herald of the Dawn as Lucifer is
Venus=attrib. to Hathor
Hathor/Venus=Attributed to Mid-day sun.I mean, you can just feel the connotations pulsing through the woodwork of the ship of the dead as it passes through on its course.
"In the Land of the Night, the Ship of the Sun is drawn by the grateful Dead."Also, the communicator says "I am one with the Angel, and the Angel is one with the God", implying he is one with his holy guardian angel and conscious of it.
(He) goes onto say that the Goddess is "None", as all gods are just specks of light in the well of her deep womb, implying Nuit, or any of the Sky goddesses who house Hadit, including our Ahathor.And not only is it our brave Lord of Light he is communicating with, but a direct link to his own HGA, Aiwass. I can't remember the exact reference, but because of these connotations, some lesser informed individuals state that "Lucifer was Crowley's Holy Guardian Angel."
Obviously not, but obviously so. We look to RHKuit as our HGA, a connection to our HGA especially, and one who is already in contact with their HGA. Crowley saw Set as one in the same, because Set is, let's face facts, Hadit of our Tree, Crowley says so multiple times. However, with powers such as Apophis and Besz to demonstrate how far the elements actually reach and how powerful they can be, RHK seems to be a dominating Angel who does not mind birthing himself into our own Malkuth to demonstrate his power and to manifest the new Aeon.
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So, who wrote this Liber 75?
It was not Crowley, as has been suggested, and it does not bear the seal or imprimatur of any A.'.A.'. lineage.
Nor does it appear on any list of Libri.
And it doesn't have the level of sublimity/ecstasy that one associates with A.C's writing, in fact its definitely inferior and feels totally contrived, the poetry is awful and it gives the impression of being primarily concerned with putting someones agenda in place.
In fact the whole language and tone of it are distinctly modern, and looks like someone who read a lot of Crowley tried to write there own Luciferian liber. But they didn't have the gall to put an A.'.A.'. sigil on it, so it's not actually a fraud in the strict sense.
Overly critical maybe? I only looked at it for a few minutes, maybe I missed something.
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@Dar es Alrah said
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I have absolutely no proof, but it has the same smell and vibe as the COS initiates have. Very mercurial 'blue sky' stuff.
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Just a little bit yes, and not very good at that, I tend to be a bit conservative but all that Dark satanic stuff just seems a bit daft to me.
Not that I am particularly bothered by what other people do, just so long as they don't try to pass it off as something it's not, and in so doing fooling others.
Anyway, this is a bit off topic...
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I hardly consider Lucifer's Liber to be "dark Satanic stuff."
BY THE CONTRARY!!
He tells his followers "Thelemites", "Us" to be ready for anything, to continue the path that RHK has told us to continue. The war engine reference is amazing.
And "contrived"? People always have a way of reading things from Lucifer himself, (no, he did NOT write the satanic bible, a man was paid to do it and lived a false satanic lavish lifestyle because of it. then when he actually calls on lucifer for girl help, Lucifer kills the girl AND her other beoul) or from Crowley, and get at FIRST a negative aspect....
it may be something Crowley says that you heard different somewhere else, even in his own writings.. then you study into, still doubting, and he smacks you in the face with the finality that he was not wrong or erroneous at all when you find those nuggets of truth that he meant for you to look for anyways.
I'm sorry but vel Lucifery is one of the most beautiful pieces of communication from Lucifer to a human I could imagine being written or "contrived."
I won't even mention what because it is impossible to at this point, the connections I have to it regarding its legitimacy. All I should say is that our Lord of Light has already shocked the world with a bolt of lightening (atomic bomb? LSD? women's rights? or something more qabalistic, I won't say exactly what I think,) and to await the second bolt to come very soon.
I have been praying to and for Lucifer, (his soul/well-being) since I was two years old and could communicate with my mother about doing so. I probably started years before. They didn't even explain to me what religion was other than "pray to god for protection and sins." I automatically started praying to "God", probably a link through RHK to my HGA, and asking mercy for Lucifer who, let's face it and Love Him, is having problems fitting into the new Aeon.
I mean, even the bible says he is purified with Fire as we enter the new Aeon. Our Pan, our dear Pan, fellow students, is having the same kind of trouble with the new Aeon that Osiris the bull has with it (vide Liber 418, 29th Aethyr I believe.)
They cannot understand fully that Horus will take the place of Hadit in this universe, and probably every element branching through it, (the sephiroth is projected into the four worlds,) so other "Hadits" have to be overthrown by them.
When we think about it, Crowley says Set, or Satan, is Hadit, the south, Sun in the south. It seems to me that with our Sun rising in the East, and RHK taking his seat in the east at the Equinox of the Gods, that he is overtaking all over Hadits of the four worlds, in my mind Besz, Apophis, and our Set.
Just think, if we are in, say, a HOD tetragrammaton (ten sephira inside a Hod), and we are projected into the Fire world --
(my opinion when everything is looked at. original manifestation of the unutterable tao cropping the "fire flower" from it's own mind and formulating the higher father (mental sections) and even then the Chokma is associated with the first creative manifestation, fire. Our tree of life seems to be a manifestation of a perfect original fire (firmament flare comes to mind) continuing down the tree until it manifests in Malkuth, under the Earth, moving as molten magma, providing the Earth with the underground movement it needs to spin properly without nothing but Earthquakes) --and say Apophis is the same but from the sephira projected in the world of Water, and Besz the same, projected in the world of Earth, then that means...
drumroll...
That RHK is from a tree of life projected in the element of Air. We may be in a Hod, or another Strong air sephira, and that may be why he is dominating all other entities, dieties, "Hadits", and basically everything you can think of.
Hermes Trimestergis comes to mind (Hermes manifesting himself in a continuous three-incarnation situation.)
I'd be interested in what the older Mages say about this one. By weighing powers of elements, we could map exactly where we are on the Flower of Life.
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Oh, and he also says to his "Thelemites", to "follow me, that one day you may outgrow me." Implying his difficulty merging with the new Aeon, and for all of us to not look back, that He loves us and wants us to be strong.
Again, huge similarities between Lucifer/Hadit/RHK/Set.
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Oh, and I believe, two of my posts ago, is why Michael is the Angel who does battle directly with Satan and keeps him from "crossing the border" to places he doesn't "deserve" to go..
Michael is the presiding archangel over Hod, PLUS..
..another drumroll..
He is the Angel of Fire.. so if we are in a Hod projected into Fire, then Michael of the tree of life above us is one of the most, if not the most, influential and powerful archangel(s) in our sephira and element world.
I've done a lot of thinking, meditating, Magick and "journeys" on this.
I apologize to the higher members of AA./OTO if I disclosed things that people are supposed to find out on their own.. but it's all just pretty easy to figure out when you lay it right in front of you, know the relations of your reality, and can "weigh" them spiritually.
Peace and Power to you all.
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Here's the thing, I don't actually believe in Satan of Archangels or any of that stuff, these ideas are useful in there way, and I am familiar with the various stories of Set, Satan, Lucifer and a whole host of other similar characters as myths to explain things that are much larger than us in a way that our tiny minds can process, But I don't for a minute believe that there are actual beings called Satan and RHK and the rest.
Although I do believe in principles, and I see god's and whatnot as plausible expressions of those principles, with no need to go about asserting objective reality to them.
And secondly, anything you might bring up from that text means nothing to me because I don't think it came from any spirit, or even a particularly inspired human, just a human who had read a lot of Crowley and decided to try to copy his style, and (and this is only my opinion, after going over the whole text) not actually doing a very good job, in fact it's worse that Parson's Book of Babalon.
But like I said, that's only my opinion, but I'm a skeptic and extremely critical.
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@Archaeus said
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But like I said, that's only my opinion, but I'm a skeptic and extremely critical.
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That would be a way to put it.
Good for you, that's the first rule, to not attribute any psychological validity to these things:
but remember, all those "higher" ideas that we have to connect to with actual vibrations and names, were there waaayy before we were, and is in fact the Magickal order and language of our particular part of creation.
If none of these beings were "actually" existing, then you should be able to make up your own god-names, elements corresponding, vibrative wavelengths and colors, and have it be just as effective as tracing an Earth pentagram and vibrating "Adonai".
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@ThelemicMage said
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@Archaeus said
"But like I said, that's only my opinion, but I'm a skeptic and extremely critical.
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That would be a way to put it.
Good for you, that's the first rule, to not attribute any psychological validity to these things:
but remember, all those "higher" ideas that we have to connect to with actual vibrations and names, were there waaayy before we were, and is in fact the Magical order and language of our particular part of creation.
If none of these beings were "actually" existing, then you should be able to make up your own god-names, elements corresponding, vibrative wavelengths and colors, and have it be just as effective as tracing an Earth pentagram and vibrating "Adonai"."
Not really, I think it's simply a case of my mind knowing these ideas well enough that when I use them they cause a response in my pre-conditioned brain,simply because I understand what I mean by them, kinda like programming myself to respond in certain ways to certain triggers.
I see no reason to assume that these things pre-date Humanity, in fact I'd go so far as to posit that they are part of Humanity, they are our racial memories and our sub-conscious symbol sets, common to us all through our ancestral heritage. Which is why the older images are more effective, because they've been with us for longer.
There is no God but Man.