Banishing / Invoking Pentagrams
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@Sarreth said
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"Where do you live? Those exact consequences arise out of the initiatic work of Temple of Thelema. (And, of course, you can persevere independently with things mentioned above.)"I live in south-east europe, is there a temple of thelema active in "this part of town" ?"
No, sorry. Only in North America.
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"Involution. Like a starved body that starts to eat itself. Yes - I am also concerned with this. "
We are, a fallen race. I'm concerned with those who have, delusions of freedom. Freedom being something twisted, dualistic, in their minds.Indeed, attention is needed"
We hardly lack attention. Yet the origins of the watchers as far as I know are lost in the midst of time, and while the ongoing crisis presently occurs with the planetary ecology I am reminded that there have been 5 great extinction events already in the lifetime of this planet. Yet it did not erase their consciousness. Instead - it seems to have amplified it and gifted them with more than they had before their fall. "
Well, it seems that the harder the fall the stronger the coming up. It is said that some of the left hand initiates of our times will be major right hand initiates in the next "times". I wouldn't wait to find out though.
"This species has not fallen yet. And if they do they will arise once again, just as the watcher did after their species wide abyss."
Humanity right now is falling far below all the previous ones. If the next one falls, my guess is it will be even worse than the present. But there is always a golden era before that. I don't know If we'll get to see a golden age with this humanity though. The question is, how much pain are you willing to endure? And how much more "condensed" are you willing to become? It's suffocating in here already."Have you ever ventured to be one with the fungi kingdom? "
The fungi kingdom? No, I haven't. It doesn't sound familiar."Menstrual blood or semen given to a living batch of yeast should provide the conduit of the abiogenesis. "
I'm not sure I get what you are refering to, but nevertheless i would rather not dirty myself with atoms of the enemy. Some consider ejaculation a sacrifice, I consider it, idiocy. Of course that depends on the path you are treading. I would not judge one who has decided to take the "opposite" path. -
"Also - may I remind you - it was 'suffocating' before the first ape started eating the fish and the possibility for reincarnation presented itself to the watchers. "
Well... anywhere is suffocating when you have an ego. But in this era, with this humanity, in this city, well..." I also know that when you actually live in the moment and not vicariously that the times you know are going to happen are very different when you actually experience them even though their qualia are exactly the same."
Well, yeah"'m merely suggesting it is a conduit to the original consciousness. The fungi Kingdom retains the link and was around before the extinction of the watchers. They are the first and ultimate alchemists and the handmaidens of the original consciousness. By providing the fungi kingdom with a link then their consciousness will merge with yours. Nothing at all to do with 'the enemy'. From my perspective you have already done this.
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@Dar es Allarah said
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@Sarreth said
"Well... anywhere is suffocating when you have an ego. But in this era, with this humanity, in this city, well..."Getting over the city making mentality... well... that's an evolutionary step as well.
I live in the country. I was born in a city but moved out. Cheap housing. No sirens. Beautiful scenery and animals... do yourself a favour and move!
www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0112.html#aeso"
I would, but I need to find my priestess first
Besides, I also need to work for the army of the Lord. One can go and live happily with the goats, but the goats show no interest whatsoever for the teachings of Buddha, Jesus, Crowley and whatever right hand or left hand master. Therefore my role there would be merely decorative unless I could somehow serve my "fellow" human beings from a distance. And therefore serve myself.
So true...
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five things to bear in mind about the ritual of the pentagram:
-the names "lesser" and "greater"/"supreme" are unfortunately misleading. don't make the mistake of thinking that the supreme ritual of pentagram is "better" or more important than the lesser ritual of pentagram. if anything it is much more vital to be familiar with the lesser than it is with the supreme.
-the generic lesser pentagram ritual is not banishing/invoking earth, even though they use the same directions and starting points. the crucial difference is colour and intention.
-one should connect the pentagrams as you move from one to another to create a horizontal circle which links the four.
-"agla" is not a divine name, it is an acronym of the sentence "ateh gibor le-olam adonai"
-lots of instructions for the pentragram ritual suggest using the sign of the enterer and of silence in the vibration of the godnames, forget about this. it's based on a misreading (i learned this from james on here and owe my thanks to him for clearing it up) of crowley's liber o. instead one touches the centre of the pentagram and vibrates the godname.
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@bdc said
"four things to bear in mind about the ritual of the pentagram:
-the names "lesser" and "greater"/"supreme" are unfortunately misleading. don't make the mistake of thinking that the supreme ritual of pentagram is "better" or more important than the lesser ritual of pentagram. if anything it is much more vital to be familiar with the lesser than it is with the supreme.
-the generic lesser pentagram ritual is not banishing/invoking earth, even though they use the same directions and starting points. the crucial difference is colour and intention.
-one should connect the pentagrams as you move from one to another to create a horizontal circle which links the four.
-"agla" is not a divine name, it is an acronym of the sentence "ateh gibor le-olam adonai""
Thanks for your response bdc, you chose good points to emphisize.
I will incorporate the cycle that you mentioned, I found a reference of the cycle somewhere, but didn't gave much value to it.
For starting point I use the left "leg" of the pentagram. I also visualise it white. Is that color effective or is there a more effective one?
And I don't use the word "agla" I use the full sentece. I find it sluggish to use the abbrevation istead of the whole formula, since it is at hand. -
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There are some forces that think the present evolutionary wave is a dead end and that want to re-engineer an evolution. Thus 're-evolution'.According to one such working that timeline: "Mankind will become as happy children - knowing only bliss and the eternal now. But robbed of the intellect that we think is the cause of their sorrow." "
steiner said something close to this threatened humanity in his lecture "The Inner Impulses of Man"
wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA171/English/AP1984/19160917p01.html
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I know it was mentioned off hand as being a tool box,
If there was no elaboration:
Say, you wished to work with Fire...
Then you go to the fire quarter, do what you need to do
And that is it!
It is not neccesary to do anything with Air if you are not concerned with it
In what little experience I have had it is meant to allow yourself to tune to particular elements
Studying them individually -
This was a very insightful discussion kinda heavy, I understand the magick procedure better Thanks.