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Concept of the Abyss

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Magick
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    Sameck
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    Good evening, Jim and others.
    First, excuse my bad English.
    I wonder where and how Crowley and Cecil Jones took the concept of Abyss since its initial foundation work were fundamentally GD: And also, since in it, from what little I've read so far, had a level of labor well below the College's External AA.
    Another doubt I have is how CJ and was welcomed into the Adeptship AC, AA, since there were no other altissimo level embodied in that time.
    I will be grateful for your help to understand this.

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    @Sameck said

    "I wonder where and how Crowley and Cecil Jones took the concept of Abyss since its initial foundation work were fundamentally GD: And also, since in it, from what little I've read so far, had a level of labor well below the College's External AA."

    The G.D. 5=6 initiation ceremony is the basis of the A.'.A.'. 2=9 initiation ceremony. The A.'.A.'. 1=10 has done most of the work that made up the practical curriculum of the G.D. Zelator Adeptus Minor at the time Crowley and Jones went through.

    I'm not sure what you mean, though, by "where and how [they] took the concept of the Abyss." Are you asking where they got the ideas? The basics are very old Qabbalistic ideas. They also opened them up based on personal experiene.

    "Another doubt I have is how CJ and was welcomed into the Adeptship AC, AA, since there were no other altissimo level embodied in that time."

    Are you asking about Cecil Jones' adept grade? He and Crowley had joined Mathers in the Alpha & Omega after the schism in the G.D. Jones had continued through the 7=4 grade, and had this grade when Crowley returned from China in 1906. Additionally, in the months that followed, Jones was in touch with those who were not necessarily embodied.

    Does this help? If I've misunderstood, please correct my understanding of your question.

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    Buenos Dias!

    In any circumstances! Everything was clear in my mind now.
    Anyway, what led, then, to A.C. and C.J., to obtain this high design for all degrees of A.A., and also, within the reach Adeptship new concept founded by A.A., was not only to their personal experience, but also with the aid of Adept´s embodied not in time.
    This I doubt arose precisely the reason that I never saw them talking about it openly, by what I remember, you know?
    The maximum I have ever seen indicating a more direct way was a reference to the Magis in Liber Aleph.
    And the quote that "He was received by DDS; OM is now 5 = 6". - or something like that, I can not remember the citation correctly.
    But it always left me with a doubt: Who received D.D.S?
    With this now clarified his response to me.
    Thank you!

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