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    whiskers
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    93 ,Folks
    LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
    LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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      93 ,Folks
      LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
      LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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      Jim Eshelman
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      @whiskers said

      "OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point"

      One generally would not be; however, to answer your question...

      "do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram"

      No. First of all, the pentagrams are traced at an infinite distance, so that they always remain "in front" of you. In any case, one doesn't pierce them.

      "Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out."

      Trace it. (One could make up ritual where one doesn't do that; but it's not this ritual.

      "What effect does this have either way once rituals are done "

      The circle does many things, one of which is to give cohesion to the whole. It's a symbol of Nuit - a zero or circumference - complemented by your position at the center.

      "LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center."

      Huh? Possibly I'm not understanding you. In any case, you're making a simple thing unnecessarily complicated. (And wonder if you mean the Lesser Invocing Ritual; it sounds like you're describing the Supreme.)

      When invoking an element (or, for that matter, a planet or whatever), you are attuning your consciousness to the 'frequency' of that principle - dialling up the right TV station, so to speak.

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        93 ,Folks
        LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
        LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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        mark0987
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        Sorry to add to someone else's post but it just seemed tidier.....

        When vibrating the secret names do you vocalise any sound whatsoever? I don't like the thought of performing a ritual in silence.

        Any help is much appreciated.

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          93 ,Folks
          LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
          LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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          Jim Eshelman
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          Yes, the names are vibrated aloud - ideally with a specific type of magician voice that is both sonorous and creates a literal vibration in the physical body.

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            93 ,Folks
            LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
            LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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            mark0987
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            Thank you for your reply, I got confused because the instructions say to breathe through the nostrils and vibrate the name. I can't do that and vocalise the names simultaneously.....Perhaps just me lol.

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              93 ,Folks
              LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
              LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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              Avshalom Binyamin
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              The "Breathe in deeply through the nostrils" bit is from the instructions for section III, 3, "The Vibration of God-names".

              The LRP is in section IV, and the instructions just say "vibrate".

              😉

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                93 ,Folks
                LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                Jim Eshelman
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                That's true of the technique called "Vibration of Divine Names by the Formula of the Middle Pillar,taught in Liber O as a method of identifying with a God-idea. But that's not what you're doing in the Pentagram Ritual. Just touch the center of the pentagram with your fingers or implement and vibrate the name.

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                  93 ,Folks
                  LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                  LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                  mark0987
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                  Well thank you for this, I have been practising the ritual wrong for years now lol A lot of authors need to be told what I have just been told because they publish the vibration of the God names with the LBRP and instruct you to use it with that ritual.

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                    93 ,Folks
                    LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                    LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                    whiskers
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                    93
                    Thanks for info
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                      93 ,Folks
                      LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                      LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                      Q789
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                      May i suggest that when vibrating-vibrate from the chest. Let it flow out from the Ana Harta.

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                        93 ,Folks
                        LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                        LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                        Jim Eshelman
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                        @Q789 said

                        "Ana Harta."

                        What a magnificent pun!

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                          93 ,Folks
                          LBRP....After the Q.Cross and one steps forward ,traces the Pentagram with forefinger then draws in the divine name mentally , projects forefinger to center of Pentagram and vibrates the Divine name charging the Pentagram and visualizing the Divine Name in Hebrew going through it to eternity OK If one is using the Enterer in the same point do you visualise yourself going through the Pentagram and the Divine name rushing in front of hands then withdraw back through the Pentagram into the center of your circle visualizing the Glowing Star with the Divine Name glowing in the center followed by the sign of silence Is it also good practice to trace the circle from center to center of each pentagram or can one leave it out .What effect does this have either way once rituals are done
                          LIRP....Once one has invoked say Earth ..Spirit..Inv.Earth Pentagram ....Sign .....does one go through the invoked pentagram in the form of the sign travelling or is ones Aura being transformed by the rays of the pentagram and again if you are in a particular quarter is it best to trace a circle from center to center .Iguess i am looking for approaches that give good ritual conduct and seek clarification from more experienced folks on the path
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                          Avshalom Binyamin
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                          My vocal chords are in my throat, so I kind of have to vibrate from there 😉 but I get what your saying. Practice and intention can cause the vibration to resonate with different parts of the body.

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