Liber Lilith
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What do you think of this book?
Of Karl Steiger's journal?
Would it be dangerous to do what Karl did even for an advanced magician?
Could there be a point in doing so?
Could an advanced magician still learn a lot from Lilith?
Do you have any personal experience to share concerning such things?
What would you tell to a beginner who got this book and wants to try the stuff?
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Do you mean the Donald Tyson novel? Or something else?
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@Takamba said
"I think Jim's main hint was the word "novel."
A work of fiction.But of course, good fiction is bent around something true or it couldn't be believable.
Experiment at your own peril."
Speaking of works of ficton, sir Takamba, do foil or any other kinds of novel metallic headware block out any sorts of signals of non-reality?
Love is the Law,
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@ThelemicMage said
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@Takamba said
"I think Jim's main hint was the word "novel."
A work of fiction.But of course, good fiction is bent around something true or it couldn't be believable.
Experiment at your own peril."
Speaking of works of ficton, sir Takamba, do foil or any other kinds of novel metallic headware block out any sorts of signals of non-reality?
Love is the Law,
Frank"I don't know, you'll have to ask the actor who's photo I am using here.
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What about those guys who actually believe Lilith is Nuit?
Could they theoretically make their worship of Lilith work in a way that enables them to rise up the tree of life?
"all is in the all and the all is in all"(Hermes)... So could those guys actually "hit" on the Nuit part of Lilith thanks to their "mistake"...?!
Also, once again theoretically, would it be possible, if say, most of the people in the world got into that worship, that by the power of the new eggregore and collective magick, the qabalistic attribution just changes? Or would the raw power of the Names be too strong to have their qabalistic attributions changed?
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@milkBoxx said
"I've always equated Lilith with the ordeal of the siren.
If this is true, I wouldn't advise any worship if you plan on making progress."Sounds very right. That's what i've always experienced with her and read(from serious sources) about her.
Still, as crazy as it may sound, i think it's the very act of crossing the line (almost "Karl's style") that made me definitely pass the ordeal. I wouldnt advise such practice though.
Actually i had such(and most of them) "Lilith-like" girlfriends all my life, that the real deal was almost a walk in a(very dark) park. I may had passed most of the ordeal with the said girlfriends already though, so once again my view may be VERY biased.
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@Frater Horus said
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@milkBoxx said
"I've always equated Lilith with the ordeal of the siren.
If this is true, I wouldn't advise any worship if you plan on making progress."Sounds very right. That's what i've always experienced with her and read(from serious sources) about her.
Still, as crazy as it may sound, i think it's the very act of crossing the line (almost "Karl's style") that made me definitely pass the ordeal. I wouldnt advise such practice though.
Actually i had such(and most of them) "Lilith-like" girlfriends all my life, that the real deal was almost a walk in a(very dark) park. I may had passed most of the ordeal with the said girlfriends already though, so once again my view may be VERY biased. "
Amazing in bed though... lol jk...or am I? No, it's something that I struggled with for quite a while.
Especially as far as, " Are you an ordeal or am I just going to sabotage this relationship?"
Ironically the girl I was with, her name equated to 864 in English Gematria (Scarlet Woman) making me even more
perplexed and torn. Ultimately, best thing to do is to just discriminate by behavior and not by circumstance.
Lilith can be tricky, can't let it get the best of us.I know how you feel.
Cheers!